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Old March 29th, 2016, 08:00 PM   #921
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Or two!


ONE!!...ICONIC!
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Old March 29th, 2016, 08:00 PM   #922
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Or two!
Indeed.
By the way 1 WTC looks amazing in that last picture.
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Old April 30th, 2016, 03:08 AM   #923
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News ?
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Old April 30th, 2016, 11:19 PM   #924
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I really like the balance it creates in lower Manhattan.
I hope that something at least this size gets approved for that spot!
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Old May 2nd, 2016, 05:24 PM   #925
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To finish the balance there should be a megatall in the heart of Downtown.
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Old May 25th, 2016, 03:58 AM   #926
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Why no more news ?
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Old May 31st, 2016, 04:20 PM   #927
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Nice!! Haven't been in NY for a few years so far, but I'll definitely go soon!

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Old June 30th, 2016, 08:35 AM   #928
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Some of our pals over at YIMBY forums (in particular Vertical Gotham, YIMHudson and Daltontanner) have spotted this model at the SHoP offices, and done some sleuthing which suggests could very well be a version of 80 South Street:



If that smaller gray building juxtaposed against the taller tower is supposed to be One Seaport (which itself is about 700 ft.), that would make this tower right around 1400 ft. tall... That lines up with what we already knew, but this is at least an interesting look at the potential volume of the new tower, with a graceful taper on the North side. I'd be very pleased if this is the general profile that we wind up with.
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Old June 30th, 2016, 01:50 PM   #929
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This is NOT this tower, this is a roughly 700 footer at Maiden Lane.
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Old June 30th, 2016, 03:54 PM   #930
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This is NOT this tower, this is a roughly 700 footer at Maiden Lane.
There is no way the big building is the 700ft tower on Maiden Lane. Why would SHOP have the model for another developer's building sitting in their office?

I think the smaller grey building is the Maiden Lane building.
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Old June 30th, 2016, 04:35 PM   #931
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Some of our pals over at YIMBY forums (in particular Vertical Gotham, YIMHudson and Daltontanner) have spotted this model at the SHoP offices, and done some sleuthing which suggests could very well be a version of 80 South Street:



If that smaller gray building juxtaposed against the taller tower is supposed to be One Seaport (which itself is about 700 ft.), that would make this tower right around 1400 ft. tall... That lines up with what we already knew, but this is at least an interesting look at the potential volume of the new tower, with a graceful taper on the North side. I'd be very pleased if this is the general profile that we wind up with.



Lol!!...It seems we have a case of industrial espionage.....
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Old June 30th, 2016, 05:04 PM   #932
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The old design of the maiden lane tzower was stuck in my head, yes, that seems to be 80SS. I can´t wait to see the details of this one.
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Old June 30th, 2016, 08:19 PM   #933
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Seems that Nikolai and the YIMBY team concur that this is indeed 80 South. Some details from their article (as well as a reminder of this site's crazy history):

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Despite the lack of detail in the photo, the giveaway is the model’s adjacent neighbor, One Seaport, which is now under construction. That building has an address of 151 Maiden Lane, and while it will stand 670 feet to its roof, it will be diminutive compared to its future counterpart next door, which will stand over twice as tall (and block all of One Seaport’s northern views in the process).

At an estimated height of 1,436 feet, 80 South Street will completely dwarf all other residential buildings in Lower Manhattan, proposed or otherwise. The current tallest is 30 Park Place, at 937 feet, but that will soon be eclipsed by the approximately 1,000-foot 125 Greenwich Street, as well as the 1,127-foot-tall 45 Broad Street. 125 Greenwich is already under construction, while 45 Broad is set to break ground this fall.

80 South Street is slightly further off in the development pipeline, and it has quite the recent history. The site was originally supposed to host a design by Santiago Calatrava consisting of a series of ‘floating’ boxes, which was scrapped in favor of a tower with sky gardens, designed by Morali Architects. After its acquisition by the Howard Hughes Corporation, that design was also tossed, before the site was again sold to China Oceanwide Holdings for $390 million last year.

After receiving approval from the City Planning Commission earlier this year, the developers upped the total air rights to 1,067,350 square feet, including 512,300 square feet for residential use. And with that amount of air rights, a tower rivaling the city’s tallest buildings became a legitimate possibility.

Despite the lack of specific details, it appears the building will be torqued to some degree, while also tapering slightly as it rises. While it doesn’t look to rival 111 West 57th Street in terms of its girth, it will still be rather thin. With a roof standing approximately 50 feet above One World Trade Center’s, 80 South Street’s height alone will be enough to make a significant impact on the Downtown skyline, acting as a counter-weight to the new World Trade Center on the other side of the island.

With design details slowly leaking and an increasing number of supertalls seeking EB-5 financing from abroad, China Oceanwide’s project — which also has an address at 163 Front Street — may finally leave the drawing board after well over a decade of delays. Nevertheless, no completion date has been formally announced yet.
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Old June 30th, 2016, 10:01 PM   #934
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Old July 2nd, 2016, 07:37 PM   #935
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This is one huge tower...
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Old July 4th, 2016, 10:18 PM   #936
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This beauty will really makes it's mark on the lower manhattan skyline. That side of the FD needed more height.
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Am I the only one who wishes that the entire thin Maiden lane block had been combined with the 80 South Street site and the three projects currently going on been combined into one? They could've even had much wider sidewalks or a park at the base. Makes me think of the three projects that went up between broadway and 8th ave on the same block in the west 50's two years ago
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Old July 5th, 2016, 08:15 PM   #938
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Am I the only one who wishes that the entire thin Maiden lane block had been combined with the 80 South Street site and the three projects currently going on been combined into one? They could've even had much wider sidewalks or a park at the base. Makes me think of the three projects that went up between broadway and 8th ave on the same block in the west 50's two years ago
Yeah, I'm with you, it's a little funky, but then again full-block towers are so rare these days, we're pretty lucky to have a couple underway. But the narrow site means we're going to see something relatively slender, and thus substantially different from One WTC across the way. And it's hard to think of a ~1400 waterfront tower as a missed opportunity.

Also, welcome to the forum! I appreciate your thoughtful comments here and in some of the other threads. Looking forward to your photos once you hit the 10-post mark.
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Old July 18th, 2016, 10:39 PM   #939
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Okay, I saw this incredible shot by Kirit Prajapati over in the World's Best Skyline thread and wanted to try and visualize what this view would look like with 80 South in the picture. After some double-checking, I think this is fairly accurate based on the above model from SHoP, and the One Seaport renders we've seen. Pretty freaking impressive!

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Personally, I've always liked the way that the WTC complex is the focal point of the Lower Manhattan skyline. This and SHVO are kinda ruining downtown, IMO.
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