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Old November 24th, 2005, 09:59 AM   #121
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May be architecture and commerce (read planning and budgeting) dont go into the same head !!
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Old December 6th, 2005, 09:43 PM   #122
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Development afoot for Seaport area

by Lois Weiss

A modern towering building of cubes by noted architect Santiago Calatrava is just one of the many changes coming to the historical Seaport area.

The Calatrava building, a dramatic series of vertical townhome cubes, however, won't have true retail in its base.

Developer Frank Sciame says they are seeking museums, galleries, and/or a very high end boutique hotel for its 80,000 square-foot base.

According to Mendelson and Green, executive directors of Cushman & Wakefield this is comprised of two commercial "cubes" of 10,000 feet each divided into four floors - that are the equivalent height of the 12th floor - a big stretch of "air" and then a 60,000 foot base.

The base will have up to six floors, depending on necessary ceiling heights for the eventual users.

Above the commercial cubes are 10 more cubes that are individual townhomes that are selling for more than $30 million each.

"We hired Laurie Beckelman - a former head of the City's Landmarks Commission - as a consultant and are exploring the possibilities of cultural facilities in the base," said Sciame.
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Old December 30th, 2005, 06:09 PM   #123
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This building is fascinating, the abstract design makes you stop and contemplate. Definitely form over function, but just imagine how much it will stir you when experienced in person. I think it is perfect for NYC, a city that is anything but conventional.

Go NYC!
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Old December 31st, 2005, 12:16 PM   #124
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GO NY
this is a great addition to the skyline. keep on building
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Old January 1st, 2006, 04:22 PM   #125
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I believe that it will destroy a very nice part of the water front and it looks like crap to boot . this building belongs in the drunken imagination of someone who is not taken seriously .
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Old January 1st, 2006, 07:08 PM   #126
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This design doesn't convence me.

Very "futuristic" for the classic New York City skyline.
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Old May 30th, 2006, 02:11 PM   #127
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I have just found a bigger version of one of the renderings:

I hope it had not been posted before, but at least I did not see it in this thread.
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Old May 30th, 2006, 05:52 PM   #128
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I think it is rather awful...
totally agree
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Old May 30th, 2006, 06:54 PM   #129
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would this tower be airplane resistant?
looks scary, thin and weak
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Old May 30th, 2006, 07:12 PM   #130
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i do love the design, but along with most i think it is too thin, though there are alot of apt buildings in nyc that are very thin aswell
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Old May 30th, 2006, 07:34 PM   #131
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would this tower be airplane resistant?
looks scary, thin and weak
Why would it need to be? No one is going to attack a building with no more than about 40 people (albiet rich ones) living in it. Stop being so bloody paranoid.

One thing's for sure, if it ever does get built the person living in the top 'cube' will have one of the greatest views on the planet.
I don't see a why people say 'it doesn't suit New York', New Yorks skyline is great because of it's enourmous diversity. There is no such thing as 'doesn't suit' as far as I can see. As long as a design is of high quality it will fit in and enhance the skyline, regardless of it's architectual style.
New York will only remain the great city that it is if it continues to progress the way it has over the last 150years or so. People who want to preserve the city how it is today will cause the city to be left behind.
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Old May 31st, 2006, 04:12 AM   #132
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I'm hoping that this one gets built.
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Old May 31st, 2006, 05:54 AM   #133
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hm looking at that rendering it seems cool, I didnt like it before but now I do for some reason....so yea BUILD IT!
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Old May 31st, 2006, 06:16 PM   #134
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I really really want this tower in downtown but the developers were idiotic and financially messed up the project. there are too few apartments in the tower for too high a price. no one has even put in a serious bid for an apt. the apartments need to be split up by floor and on the lower levels, a couple per floor to up the amount of people living there. as it is right now, financially, this tower will never be made
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 07:04 AM   #135
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NEW YORK | 80 South Street | Pro

Use: Residential, Office, Museum
Developer: FJ Sciame (likely to change)
Architect: Santiago Calatrava (may change)
http://www.80southstreet.net/ (old)

Even though this project was completely approved a long time ago, it has not been fully financed yet, but it is still alive and there’s still a good chance that something will happen at the site.




Santiago Calatrava has a great desire to get this skyscraper built. Each condo in this tower costs $30 million. Picture the new Lower Manhattan with all of her new skyscrapers, and now this.

80 South Street is far from dead, though the first design may be gone.

The NEW Prop (as of April 2008):

[IMG]http://i30.************/9pnlef.jpg[/IMG]

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Old October 22nd, 2007, 07:08 AM   #136
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starting 29 million, no thanks

but design looks unique
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 07:11 AM   #137
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 07:11 AM   #138
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anybody knows when is construction going to start (if its going to start)? it is so original, I can't wait to see it started and finished!

Calatrava is going to show us another beauty, one for two of the most beautiful skyscrapercities in america.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 07:14 AM   #139
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It has been approved for two years. The problem is getting people to buy into it. You can't just built something like this unless you're sure that people will live there. For all we know, nothing will happen for another two years until they find some people who are rich and want to live in this amazing tower. I'm not sure if anyone is serious about buying a condo yet.

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Old October 22nd, 2007, 07:18 AM   #140
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It has been approved for two years. The problem is getting people to buy into it. You can't just built something like this unless you're sure that people will live there. For all we know, nothing will happen for another two years until they find some people who are rich and want to live in this amazing tower. I'm not sure of anyone is serious about buying a condo yet.
Do hope you will be wrong about the two years..
I couldn't stand the wait....
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