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Old November 23rd, 2014, 09:42 AM   #561
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To remove the traffic lights, they should make the intersection a grade-separated one.

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Old November 23rd, 2014, 09:18 PM   #562
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To remove the traffic lights, they should make the intersection a grade-separated one.
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Old November 24th, 2014, 10:30 AM   #563
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These analysis are somewhat problematic, because the semantics of the term "city" varies a lot by country. For instance, Berlin is one municipality while the Greater Paris is a conglomeration of 1000+ municipalities.

Espoo is the western part of the Greater Helsinki area, something like what Asker and Bærum together are to Oslo. Espoo does not have an inner city but it consists of several clusters of suburbs. That is why the figures are not directly comparable to those of Helsinki.

The same note applies to Villeurbanne, which is an integral part of the Lyon metropolitan area.
Yeah, what is considered as the de facto "center" of Espoo, Tapiola, is located just about 3-4 Kms from the heart of Helsinki.
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Old November 24th, 2014, 01:11 PM   #564
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Yeah, what is considered as the de facto "center" of Espoo, Tapiola, is located just about 3-4 Kms from the heart of Helsinki.
It was, earlier. Nowadays the population, services and traffic are more distributed to the other clusters, and the importance of Tapiola has collapsed. Today, it is a huge building site trying to restore its importance.

The center of Tapiola is located 8 kilometers west of the center of Helsinki.
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Old November 24th, 2014, 06:55 PM   #565
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It was, earlier. Nowadays the population, services and traffic are more distributed to the other clusters, and the importance of Tapiola has collapsed. Today, it is a huge building site trying to restore its importance.

The center of Tapiola is located 8 kilometers west of the center of Helsinki.
I ment Ruoholahti, it IS part of the Helsinki city center
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Old November 25th, 2014, 09:18 AM   #566
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It was, earlier. Nowadays the population, services and traffic are more distributed to the other clusters, and the importance of Tapiola has collapsed. Today, it is a huge building site trying to restore its importance.
Indeed. Matinkylä something like 10 years ago was not so attractive place as it is now, Espoon Keskus, geographical centre of Espoo might increase its importance in the future, southern districts of Espoo will be even more attractive due to lansimetro
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Old November 26th, 2014, 12:55 PM   #567
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Hamina by-pass (E18/7, 13Km) seems to be opening. So 63 Kms of new motorway this year + plenty of road projects starting next year that would be classified f.e. in Sweden as motorways
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Old November 26th, 2014, 08:50 PM   #568
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Hamina by-pass (E18/7, 13Km) seems to be opening.
If I got it right, the westernmost section (OSM; ~2km) will be opened "in November", the entire bypass in early 2015, see press release.

Does anyone know when exactly the 2km section has been opened / will be opened?
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Old November 27th, 2014, 09:09 AM   #569
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If I got it right, the westernmost section (OSM; ~2km) will be opened "in November", the entire bypass in early 2015, see press release.

Does anyone know when exactly the 2km section has been opened / will be opened?
The west section (6 km, not 2 km) is under finalization. Some diversion routes are still in place. The east section is promised to be opened by Christmas. No exact dates given.
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Old November 27th, 2014, 06:01 PM   #570
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What country has the best pavement on the motorways:Sweden,Finland or Norway ?
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What country has the best pavement on the motorways:Sweden,Finland or Norway ?
I am not sure if Norway has any significant number of motorways
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Old November 27th, 2014, 07:24 PM   #572
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We do. More than 500 km, mostly on E 18 and E 6. There is a roughness index statistic somewhere, Norway hasn't done to well on it in the past.
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Old November 27th, 2014, 08:15 PM   #573
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We do. More than 500 km, mostly on E 18 and E 6. There is a roughness index statistic somewhere, Norway hasn't done to well on it in the past.
Northern Norway's grumpy narrow roads and the sign "SUOMI - FINLAND" and a significantly wider road suddenly with fresh painted road markings, shining signs and black new asphalt. Quite a contrast. In the middle of nowhere in Northern Lapland! So I would say we have in Finland.
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Old November 27th, 2014, 08:44 PM   #574
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The west section (6 km, not 2 km) is under finalization. Some diversion routes are still in place. The east section is promised to be opened by Christmas. No exact dates given.
This western section (here? > click <) should be opened now? Late November/Early December? The rest by Christmas?
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This western section (here? > click <) should be opened now? Late November/Early December? The rest by Christmas?
Right. No dates given.
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Old December 8th, 2014, 12:58 PM   #576
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Has the western part of the Hamina bypass opened meanwhile?
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Old December 9th, 2014, 08:00 PM   #577
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Few Kms of expressway in Vaasa on Road 8/E8 has opened. I can't freakin' understand why a road with dual carriageways, grade-separated junctions, high speed limit and frontal roads on a main route can't be designed officially a motorway in Finland (While in Sweden for example a narrow 2+2-road with some one-meter-high spikes as central barriers are motorways)!! Same happens with Kehä III, Seinäjoki by-pass, Iisalmi by-pass, Varkaus by-pass, (Taavetti)Lappeenranta-Imatra, Kehä II... "2+2-roads with grade-separated intersections, wtf!).

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Old December 9th, 2014, 11:15 PM   #578
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Sounds like Estonia
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Old December 10th, 2014, 12:38 AM   #579
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Sounds like Estonia
Except our roads have not U-turns nor exits to forest farms etc.
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Neither do newly built dual carriageways in Estonia, yet they aren't signed as motorways.
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