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Old May 19th, 2012, 04:24 AM   #361
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Let the race begin.
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Old May 19th, 2012, 04:30 AM   #362
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once One 57 is topped out, developers will be itching to top it. The first will be 432 Park, then 225 W 57th and hopefully a taller Girasole after that
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Old May 19th, 2012, 06:42 AM   #363
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Well good news.
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Old May 19th, 2012, 06:59 AM   #364
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I would love to see this at a height of 430 meters to top off the skyline. I would much rather have this over 432 park as NYC's tallest.
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Old May 19th, 2012, 04:54 PM   #365
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^Agreed, but I wonder how much the design would change
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Old May 19th, 2012, 06:39 PM   #366
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^Agreed, but I wonder how much the design would change
Well here's the thing, I am not crazy about height, I just want something to be a little taller then 432 park, so that it is overshadowed, and it becomes less obvious that there is a very tall pencil in Manhattan.
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Old May 19th, 2012, 08:11 PM   #367
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Mhhhh, they could leave the design as it is, and add flors upon the current design, let them twist the same amount it already does, and put the current parapet on top of it. Of course, if itīs technically possible, given the amount of columns and their thickness etc.


It would be crazy, if the cladding would slightly fade from a dark blue to a bright blue on the top. And they would add LEDs, which would enhance the towers twisting design. <3
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Old May 19th, 2012, 09:49 PM   #368
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So... 1WTC, 2WTC, 432, and now this will all be taller than 400m... Don't forget the Hudson Yards Tower is almost 400m as well (394m) and there is a possibility that 225 W 57 could be taller than 400m as well. New York is booming!
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Old May 19th, 2012, 10:32 PM   #369
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another race for the sky, like a century ago.
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Old May 20th, 2012, 08:27 PM   #370
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Increasing the height of the Girasole would make sense from a development perspective, especially as so many residential/mixed-use towers are now breaking the 1,000 foot barrier. As so many towers are increasingly slender--obviously 432 Park leads the pack--it would make much more sense if the Girasole took on a model-esque profile to maximize future views. The tower has 1.6 million square feet of air rights, 600,000 SF more than One57 and triple the amount that 432 Park has. The Girasole certainly doesn't lack the space needed to rise higher--perhaps even 1,500 feet is possible, given the latest trends to emphasize height over all else.
I think this has great potential to topits competitors...
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another race for the sky, like a century ago.
I don't see why not. It's about time for NYC to show up Dubai anyways.
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Old May 20th, 2012, 08:48 PM   #372
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amazing news!
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Old May 20th, 2012, 08:55 PM   #373
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I think they should give this a height of 432 meters
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Old May 20th, 2012, 09:01 PM   #374
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I think this has great potential to topits competitors...
Yeah, as it stands The GiraSole looks more like a commercial tower with its present proportions. Building a higher, more slender tower would not only be feasible but probably enhance neighboring proprties whose views wouldn't be so blocked. It's a win win. I say build it to 1,500 ft.!
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Old May 20th, 2012, 09:59 PM   #375
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The residential market in NYC seems to be incredible. This new NYC skyscraper wave is for real
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Old May 20th, 2012, 10:04 PM   #376
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The residential market in NYC seems to be incredible. This new NYC skyscraper wave is for real
I hope itīs just the "beginning".
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Old May 20th, 2012, 10:07 PM   #377
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I think it has as much to do with high demand as it has to do with technological advances allowing tall buildings to be built much cheaper than before... I don't have hard numbers but I would bet that it's more cost effective than ever to build to 1,000'+, especially in residential buildings where there aren't thousands of people entering/exiting daily. You need far fewer elevators if there are only a few hundred units to begin with... and that was the main challenge buildings like the Twin Towers faced.
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Old May 20th, 2012, 10:30 PM   #378
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I hope itīs just the "beginning".
hopefully the demand will continue

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Old May 20th, 2012, 11:36 PM   #379
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I think it has as much to do with high demand as it has to do with technological advances allowing tall buildings to be built much cheaper than before... I don't have hard numbers but I would bet that it's more cost effective than ever to build to 1,000'+, especially in residential buildings where there aren't thousands of people entering/exiting daily. You need far fewer elevators if there are only a few hundred units to begin with... and that was the main challenge buildings like the Twin Towers faced.
From what I know of history skyscraper waves were often started by advancements in engineering. Like when they first invented the steel grid system or the tube system
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Old May 21st, 2012, 07:55 AM   #380
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If this is going to be the tallest in NYC, it needs a more iconic look. Now, don't get me wrong, I love the design of this, but it doesn't look iconic enough to be NYC's tallest.
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