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Old December 15th, 2013, 08:08 AM   #621
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You guys are getting quite creative, and frankly, both ideas make sense; hope someone's taking note of this.
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Old December 15th, 2013, 12:59 PM   #622
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Don't worry, by then JFK, EWR and LGA will all be combined into a new offshore island mega-airport far enough away from Manhattan airspace that the FAA will have no logical reason not to cede to real estate lobby pressures and make an exception for the entire island. YAY for the supreme level of public infrastructure innovation and development in the US, lol. Manhattan still has a chance, don't give up yet
There has been a discussion for a long time to make Stewart Airport, which is 60
Miles NW of NYC, the major air hub since, unlike JFK and Newark, it can be expanded significantly.

They would have to add a train though, which would be expensive.
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Old December 15th, 2013, 04:53 PM   #623
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There has been a discussion for a long time to make Stewart Airport, which is 60
Miles NW of NYC, the major air hub since, unlike JFK and Newark, it can be expanded significantly.
I wonder how the folks in the Newburgh area would feel about that.
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Old December 15th, 2013, 05:10 PM   #624
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There has been a discussion for a long time to make Stewart Airport, which is 60
Miles NW of NYC, the major air hub since, unlike JFK and Newark, it can be expanded significantly.

They would have to add a train though, which would be expensive.
We could contract Elon Musk to build his hyperloop from Stewart to The Bronx. It would be about a 10 minute trip at 600 mph. We could sell JFK and La Gaurdia to private firms for residential and commercial development to cover some, if not all, of the cost.

First, though, we need to focus on protecting our beloved city from future catastrophic weather events.
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Old December 15th, 2013, 05:26 PM   #625
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I was thinking that maybe a new MSG and Javits center can be combined somehow on the Hudson pier over the water right at the same place as all this development. Just a thought
A good thought, at that. I would prefer Javits and MSG to somehow stay on Manhattan, given they are our island's convention center and only pro sports club. How big is the pier? Could it handle the world's largest convention center? Otherwise, I've envisioned our piers being used for housing.
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Old December 16th, 2013, 12:20 AM   #626
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Why convention center in Sunnyside?

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I wonder how the folks in the Newburgh area would feel about that.
Probably varies.
Newark/EWR will eventually get improved rail connections to Manhattan, just like JFK got them via the AirTrain. ISP on Long Island has been floating an improved rail connection to Manhattan recently. LGA is so close, yet so far...

Why move the convention center to Sunnyside, Queens?
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Old December 16th, 2013, 12:39 AM   #627
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Why move the convention center to Sunnyside, Queens?
There's a 167-acre space and it would spur further LIC development. There was an article in Crain's about a year ago on the subject.
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Old December 16th, 2013, 12:46 AM   #628
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Probably varies.
Newark/EWR will eventually get improved rail connections to Manhattan, just like JFK got them via the AirTrain. ISP on Long Island has been floating an improved rail connection to Manhattan recently. LGA is so close, yet so far...

Why move the convention center to Sunnyside, Queens?
Newark's rail connection to Manhattan is excellent. It's the second stop from Penn Station. Also, NJ plans to extend the PATH from the WTC to EWR.
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Old December 20th, 2013, 11:03 PM   #629
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Further Work Details Revealed on Three Major NYC Projects
http://newyork.construction.com/new_...c-projects.asp


Elegant Twist: Once completed, the tower will provide 360 degree views of the Hudson River, High Line, Hudson Blvd. Park, Central Park, Times Square, and the Empire State Building.

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Another project, located on 11th Avenue between West 34th and 35th streets near Hudson Yards, is Moinian Group's planned 3 Hudson Blvd., a 1.8-million-sq-ft, mixed-use tower. A spokeswoman for the developer, which released new renderings of the project on Dec. 17, says this will be a high-performance, sustainable building and that design plans are progressing on the interiors and the rest of the tower, which is expected to cost from $800 million to $900 million to build. Tishman Construction is the lead construction partner, and Dan Kaplan of FX Fowle designed the building, she says.

The building includes 48,000-sq-ft floor plates on the podium level, 30,000- to 35,000-square-foot, column-free floor plates in the tower office floors, with 11-foot-high ceilings and with floor-to-ceiling windows.
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Old December 21st, 2013, 12:13 AM   #630
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that are quite large floors, 35,000 sqft
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Old December 21st, 2013, 12:26 AM   #631
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Further Work Details Revealed on Three Major NYC Projects
http://newyork.construction.com/new_...c-projects.asp


Elegant Twist: Once completed, the tower will provide 360 degree views of the Hudson River, High Line, Hudson Blvd. Park, Central Park, Times Square, and the Empire State Building.
At first I thought the building looked considerably taller in that rendering. Turns out the website just stretched the image incorrectly.
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Old December 26th, 2013, 09:18 PM   #632
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I drove by today, and the construction fence has nice graphics, which proclaim: "3 Hudson Blvd."

P.S.: I wonder if Related has a silent stake in this tower. At the exhibit, all of Related's projects were depicted in clear glass, as wAs this one.
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Old January 5th, 2014, 11:36 PM   #633
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3 Hudson Boulevard with Related's Hudson Yards & Brookfield's Manhattan West Developments

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Old January 6th, 2014, 12:06 AM   #634
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Where did you find that VG?

I see the Brookfield twins are there, with one very slightly taller than the other... is this an indication to anything?
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Old January 6th, 2014, 12:26 AM   #635
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I made that from other renders.



This one was used.
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Old January 8th, 2014, 05:27 PM   #636
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Based upon these comments, this tower presumably has an anchor tenant, though it had not yet been announced:

http://www.rew-online.com/2014/01/08...-the-new-year/
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Old January 8th, 2014, 06:17 PM   #637
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Based upon these comments, this tower presumably has an anchor tenant, though it had not yet been announced:

http://www.rew-online.com/2014/01/08...-the-new-year/
That is exciting! Hopefully we can hear news of this anchor sometime early this year. We all know negotiations can take some time so here's hoping for news of Anchor secured and a ground breaking for the 4th Q for this year???
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Old January 8th, 2014, 06:30 PM   #638
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Well that's earlier than I expected if this is true!
If so, like VG said, I can imagine this starting to rise late this year, providing there's not much to demolish on site?
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Old January 8th, 2014, 06:31 PM   #639
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Girasole STILL needs a tenant

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That is exciting! Hopefully we can hear news of this anchor sometime early this year. We all know negotiations can take some time so here's hoping for news of Anchor secured and a ground breaking for the 4th Q for this year???

From the Real Estate Weekly article
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"Moinian’s 3 Hudson Boulevard will start construction when the 7th Avenue Subway extension is completed later this year, Brecher said, pending identification of an anchor tenant.
“It will be tenanted by the end of 2014,” he said. “I’m convinced of that.”
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NOTE: It's the #7 subway extension NOT "the 7th Avenue Subway extension"

In the meantime, the MTA's contractors are still working on the site (Site P below) and the adjacent Hudson Park Blvd/underground parking garage. I assume the construction of the parking garage is why Site P includes the full width of the real-soon-soon Hudson Blvd Park, whereas the adjacent subway sites do NOT include the full width of the Hudson Blvd Park.

image hosted on flickr

It also sounds like the #7 subway extension will NOT open in June 2014, but in July? August? (maybe). This is based upon recent statements by Skanska (one of the contractors) and others.

Note also that this #7 extension will only be FINISHED when the secondary entrance in the below grade levels of the to-be-built-Girasole is completed. But the Hudson Yards/Hells Kitchen Business Improvement District will take over maintenance of the Hudson Blvd Park when the Main Station Entrance opens sometime 2H2014.

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I can imagine this starting to rise late this year, providing there's not much to demolish on site?
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Demolition will be very minimal since the Girasole site (also the secondary station entrance for the #7 subway extension) will turned over by the MTA & it's contractors who will be working there till at least 2H2014.

This ILNY/SSP photo from ~2 weeks ago is looking SW from 35th. The green construction fence in mid ground is the north side of 34th st. The right side of the photo. where the construction trailers & extended boom crane are, is the site of the Girasole. The foreground with black waterproofing is the top of the parking garage and future Hudson Blvd Park build.
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ILNY/SSP: http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...&postcount=435

Note shown in the photo above or in the photo I took a month ago (below) is the big construction vent tube that leads down through the lower levels of the future Girasole. This photo is looking NW from the south side of 34th St. The future Hudson Blvd Park is on the right; the Girasole site is on the left. The graysh cube in midground is the Site K vent building/possible future Convention Center site.:
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This MTA photo from June 2012 give you a MUCH better overview:

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Construction progress on the extension of the 7 Line. Sites J, P and K, looking southwest. Image: Metropolitan Transportation Authority.
MTAPhotos http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/7455948378/
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Old January 28th, 2014, 11:15 PM   #640
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Moinian to construct LEED Platinum, 1.8 million s/f tower; Designed by FXFOWLE
http://http://nyrej.com/69140

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Tishman selected as lead construction partner on project


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