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Old July 21st, 2014, 09:26 PM   #741
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nice. That subway entrance and the surrounding features look pretty good.
Yes, it does. The ~2 week old CI article has a hi-res (if you click thru) photo of the Block 1 section of the HP&B, neglecting to mention that Block 1abuts their competitor Oxford/Related (55 Hudson Blvd). Their photo is looking ~south, towards Hudson Yards:

CommercialObserver.com The 7 train subway station and sitting areas.

IIRC, the NYTimes quoted an engineering consultant stating (to MTA board members) that the station might be completed in February 2015.

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That project, which had been scheduled to open by the end of this year, will not be completed before February 2015, even on a newly accelerated timeline, an engineering consultant, Darlene Rivera, told board members. If contractors cannot meet the new timeline, the project could drag on until spring 2015.

The push to speed progress on the No. 7 train extension produced one of the meeting’s more tense exchanges, offering a hint of the pressure transit officials are under as they try to avoid additional delays.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/24/ny...lays.html?_r=0

Dunno if both entrances would open IF the project is completed in Feb 2015 and I'm still curious as to how riders would get between 33rd st and the "primary" entrance. Ladders? Grappling hooks w/ropes attached? That temp-looking passageway immediately to the east of HP&B Block 1????

Railwaybulletin.com has a recent, concise, history of this project, with international flavoring:

http://www.railwaybulletin.com/2014/...elayed-to-2015
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 09:50 PM   #742
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Is this a new detail?
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Updated July 21, 2014 1:06 a.m. ET
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A Park Takes Shape In Hudson Yards District

Keiko Morris -- Wall Street Journal

The first half of a new park and boulevard running through the Hudson Yards District will open at the end of the year.

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The Moinian Group's 66-story building—3 Hudson Boulevard—will anchor the park. The strip of greenery, which is 230 feet wide at some points, is bordered on either side by the boulevard's northbound and southbound streets.

The park will feature three fountains with lights, surrounded by benches and interspersed with garden beds, said Aron Kirsch, senior vice president of development at The Moinian Group. The park will have a cafe or concession stand as well as bleacher seating. Moinian's tower, which is awaiting an anchor tenant, will have a sky lobby with a sculpture terrace offering views of the park and boulevard, he said.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 09:52 PM   #743
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Hadn't head of that. I wonder if it's connected to/the same thing as the rooftop bar and terrace.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 10:45 PM   #744
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Hadn't head of that. I wonder if it's connected to/the same thing as the rooftop bar and terrace.
Please note that this is a wise-ass comment:
I hadn't noticed that either and when you combine it with the turmoil regarding the recent 30 HY DoB filing AND last week' s news that Chinese investors will be building a Shanghai Club just a few blocks north: I think the end times are nigh...

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The Shanghai Club, a highly anticipated component of the project, will have spectacular views of the Hudson River and the Manhattan skyline and will feature private dining facilities with authentic Chinese cuisine, tea house, areas for lounging and socializing including a rooftop bar, a private pool, and other luxury amenities, expected to appeal to Chinese and American business people as well as international buyers who are looking to purchase a lifestyle as well as real estate.

Site preparation is to commence shortly, with groundbreaking slated for the second quarter of 2015.
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 04:00 AM   #745
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Quibble with WSJ blurb

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Updated July 21, 2014 1:06 a.m. ET
Manhattan
A Park Takes Shape In Hudson Yards District
Keiko Morris -- Wall Street Journal

The first half of a new park and boulevard running through the Hudson Yards District will open at the end of the year.

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The Moinian Group's 66-story building—3 Hudson Boulevard—will anchor the park. The strip of greenery, which is 230 feet wide at some points, is bordered on either side by the boulevard's northbound and southbound streets.

The park will feature three fountains with lights, surrounded by benches and interspersed with garden beds, said Aron Kirsch, senior vice president of development at The Moinian Group. The park will have a cafe or concession stand as well as bleacher seating. Moinian's tower, which is awaiting an anchor tenant, will have a sky lobby with a sculpture terrace offering views of the park and boulevard, he said.
I have a minor correction to the WSJ blurb regarding the park & 3 Hudson Blvd: The park only has a northbound street at the 3 HB site (and 55 HY).
https://nyocommercialobserver.files....7/photo-43.jpg

In addition, will 3 HB really "anchor" the park?
Does anybody recall if 55 HY or 3 HB is forecast to open first?
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 01:57 PM   #746
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will 3 HB really "anchor" the park?
Don't know what they mean with that.
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 06:41 PM   #747
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Don't know what they mean with that.
Besides the self-promotion of 3 HB by the Moinan source for the WSJ blurb...

Her's a better photo by Max Touhey of the site (upper left):

Max Touhey from Curbed article

PS: the people with suitcases heading west are probably going to the inexpensive NorthEastCorridor buses from the subway lines/LIRR at Penn Station. These busses are in competition with Amtrak @ PennStation. There really are a lot of transportation connections in this area, AND the 7 subway extension will open eventually.
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 08:27 PM   #748
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PS: the people with suitcases heading west are probably going to the inexpensive NorthEastCorridor buses from the subway lines/LIRR at Penn Station. These busses are in competition with Amtrak @ PennStation. There really are a lot of transportation connections in this area, AND the 7 subway extension will open eventually.
Yea, the ol' Megabus (and Bolt Bus, too). Taken that to DC and Boston many times. Poor PABT is already so crowded that it can't take any more. The Port Authority really needs to expand that whole complex. Why they're building a PATH connection to Newark instead is beyond me.
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 09:35 PM   #749
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In addition, will 3 HB really "anchor" the park?
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Don't know what they mean with that.
I assume they say that because that park is connected to the building plot and surrounded by roads on the other 3 sides
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 09:40 PM   #750
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I assume they say that because that park is connected to the building plot and surrounded by roads on the other 3 sides
As would the future 55 HY.

We know 3 HB does not have an anchor tenant (yet), though they are doing foundation work; does 55 HY?
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Old July 24th, 2014, 01:48 PM   #751
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Doing foundations is a very expensive part of the tower, so they might be very confident about tenants.
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Old July 25th, 2014, 07:57 AM   #752
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well they have a loan, so someone must be confident
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Old July 25th, 2014, 05:06 PM   #753
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well they have a loan, so someone must be confident
They HAVE to be confident so that they can get tenants before 55 Hudson Yards does. Being able to state that they can start going vertical as soon as an anchor tenant signs the lease is a competitive advantage...
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Old August 11th, 2014, 10:39 PM   #754
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Developer of 66-story spire to take first step

Moinian Group is expected to file for permits to break ground on its West Side tower at 3 Hudson Blvd., just north of Hudson Yards. The developer will also move forward on two other parcels further north along 11th Avenue.

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...ake-first-step



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Joe Moinian's 66-story tower in the Hudson Yards district is expected to move one step closer to completion Monday, when the developer plans to file for permits to break ground on the spire at 3 Hudson Blvd.

After the permit is approved, which could take up to six months, the Moinian Group plans to begin its foundation work for the 1,050-foot-tall building, which is set to include retail, commercial and possibly luxury-residential space. It will rise on a full-block site bounded by West 34th and West 35th streets to the south and north, and 11th Avenue and Hudson Boulevard West.

"There are only a few freestanding buildings in the city," said Oskar Brecher, director of development at the firm. "It is a hugely efficient way to build, since we are surrounded by wide streets on all four sides, and will have terrific visibility and more light and air."

The building is unusual in another aspect as well. Part of its foundation is shared with the new terminus of the No. 7 train, which is facing delays but will likely open next year. To finish the project, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority is leasing the Moinian site from the firm until summer 2015. The two projects are so closely intertwined that the MTA built some of the foundation for the 1.8 million-square-foot 3 Hudson Blvd.

The permit that the developer is filing this week will allow it to start building its portion of the concrete, below-grade structure alongside the public authority. The firm has decided it will be more efficient to simply hire the same contractor to do both parts, but that has not been finalized.

"It is safer, since we will not be building over an operating station, and it is cheaper for everybody," Mr. Brecher said, noting that the arrangement will also save the MTA from having to build a temporary structure over the station once it is up and running.

Moinian hopes to have the foundation built up to grade by the fall of next year and to top out on building, designed by FXFOWLE Architects' Dan Kaplan, in 2018. In a bid to make it more energy efficient, the structure will twist slightly as it rises, so the top floors face north and south.

"That not only opens up views, light and air but allows us to have superior solar control," said Mr. Kaplan, who notes the property is designed to meet LEED Platinum standards.

Aside from 3 Hudson Blvd., Moinian also plans to take action on two other parcels along 11th Avenue that, like 3 Hudson Blvd., he purchased during the last real estate cycle. Between West 25th and West 26th streets, the firm is planning a mixed-use building that will house condos, a hotel and retail. The company is also in talks with a museum to set up shop there.

Between West 43rd and West 44th streets, Moinian will likely build an 80/20 rental building, with 20% of the floor area set aside for affordable apartments, though the plans are not set in stone.

Moinian's 1,174-unit rental at 605 W. 42nd St. is currently rising at a rate of a floor every two days, and is set to top out in November.
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Super excited for this one to rise! It's one of few buildings, like 4 WTC, that even glass tower haters will have to admit is beautiful. At least that's my opinion.
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Developer of 66-story spire to take first step

Moinian Group is expected to file for permits to break ground on its West Side tower at 3 Hudson Blvd., just north of Hudson Yards. The developer will also move forward on two other parcels further north along 11th Avenue.

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...ake-first-step

Interesting, since they were claiming that ground was already broken last month when they toured media people through adjacent HP&B.

There is certainly support of excavation work ongoing in the NE corner of the 3 HB site, which might be explained by this statement in the article:
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The permit that the developer is filing this week will allow it to start building its portion of the concrete, below-grade structure alongside the public authority. The firm has decided it will be more efficient to simply hire the same contractor to do both parts, but that has not been finalized.
This is somewhat similar to the Hudson Yards overbuild platform and the underlying Amtrak tunnel concrete casing. Tutor-Perini is contractor for both, which makes sense.

EDIT: ILNY posted a bunch of 3 HB/ HP&B Block 2 photos taken July 26 over on SSP. I'm reposting one that shows the (re)excavation of the NE corner of the 3 HB site. Photo is looking SW from 35th st with Javits just out frame to the right. You can see the support of excavation piles and timbers between the two pieces of yellow construction equipment. HP & B block 2 (between 34th & 35th) is the foreground


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More ILNY photos from that date here: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=501
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Old August 12th, 2014, 03:42 PM   #758
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Super excited for this one to rise! It's one of few buildings, like 4 WTC, that even glass tower haters will have to admit is beautiful. At least that's my opinion.
While I'm not judging if it's beautiful or not yet, I am certainly excited for this one. New York has so many proposals I can't keep track of them all. In a few years there will be cranes all over New York and it'll have the appearance of a "boom" city. This one is special, like 4 WTC.

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While I'm not judging if it's beautiful or not yet, I am certainly excited for this one. New York has so many proposals I can't keep track of them all. In a few years there will be cranes all over New York and it'll have the appearance of a "boom" city. This one is special, like 4 WTC.

It is a nice looking tower; render is looking north up 11th Ave.
NYC does have MANY proposals being floated and also many cranes visible (actual work). This site alone has two cranes visible in the more-zoomed-out ILNY photos I've reposted below.

ILNY(_) "3 Hudson Boulevard" 7.26.14

I do note that the bottom MTA photo (looking in the same direction as the ILNY photo above) from a couple of years back shows that the NW corner (11th & 35th) of the 3 HB site is underlain by Amtrak's Empire connection "tunnel" which cuts diagonally under the site. The Amtrak tracks head south (towards top of photo) from the bottom of the photo and then curve east to cross UNDER the MTA's/LIRR's West Side Storage Yard/Hudson Yards. This probably makes the division of who is responsible for what 3HB foundation work interesting to negotiate. I'm also assuming that vent pipe is still coming out of the MTA's access shaft, though you can not tel from ILNY's recent photos, which are of mostly of the more interesting Hudson Park & Boulevard....

Photo: MTA Capital Construction 9/17/2012
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I think 3 Hudson(Girasole) is more classy, elegant and handsome than radically remarkable but it's a very good building that definitely gives New York City another reason to be proud of their ever growing, incomparable skyline!
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