[Indonesia] Foreign Policy and International Relations (IV)

[rilham2new]

Originally Posted by Venantio

OR PERHAPS THEY (MALAYSIAN PEOPLE) WANT TO BE PART OF INDONESIA?? THINK ABOUT IT !! IF THEY ALWAYS DO THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN, THEN IT SEEMS THAT THEY WANT TO BE INTEGRATED WITH INDONESIA... WE HAVE TO RESPOND THEM...

Hahahahaha, I dont know how to respond this

[F-ian]

Masalah Batik yg di patent iya mungkin Ilham bener... tp ada jg berita yg bilang kalo Patentnya itu cuma RUMOR alias ngak bener tandas (bukan Tandas Bhs Malaysia loo ) seorang politik mereka

cepet pindah topik deh biar gak panas


Indonesia to become Harvard 'peace lab'

The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

Indonesia's success in ending conflicts and creating peace has led Harvard University to propose using this country as a laboratory for its study into peace processes.

The Harvard Program on Humanitarian Policy and Conflict Research plans to work with Paramadina University (UPM) in Jakarta to develop studies looking at past and ongoing peace processes in Indonesia.

"Indonesia is a fascinating country to study," program director Claude Bruderlein said during a discussion on peace-building at UPM on Friday.

"Lessons learned here are very telling, very informative," he said.

Paramadina Rector Anis Baswedan said peace is now taking root in places once plagued by bloody conflicts, such as Ambon, Aceh and the Central Sulawesi district of Poso.

"There are lessons here that could be useful to the peace processes in other countries," he said.

The two universities are now finalizing details of the proposed plan. "Harvard sets very tough criteria," Baswedan said.

Bruderlein said the UN had cited studies of peace processes in African countries, the Middle East, Nepal and Sri Lanka.

"Yet, our research finds that Indonesia has been one of the most successful countries in peace-building endeavors."

The Harvard program has been primarily active in the Middle East, particularly in the Israel-Palestine conflict.

Bruderlein said there is a need for professionals in peace-building activities to exchange notes and experiences, which would allow them to develop a methodology and standards as well as vocabularies.

"There is very little literature on peace-building at the moment," he said.

He said nations undergo three phases before reaching lasting peace: peace and security, peace and justice, and peace and development.

Peace remains tentative in the first two phases, but once a nation reaches the final stage, most of the political issues will have been settled and what remain are mostly technical aspects, he said.

Indonesia makes an ideal laboratory for peace-building studies because it offers simultaneous examples of all three phases as the nation tries to integrate security, justice and development, he said.

[paw25694]

capek yah..

[peseg5]

Originally Posted by paw25694

capek yah..

yah istirahat dong... :p

[Omluki]

Originally Posted by ilham_rj

Tapi kalo berita2 itu cuman menunjukkan arogansi dan mislead nationalism ,,,

.... well, kalo tiba2 nih thread didatengin ma orang Malaysia (yang SORRY TO SAY, kebanyakan) menyikapi masalah secara lebih elegan ... aq lebih baik menarik diri ..

Relax bro, Gatra only gave us info on some Indonesian songs that was claimed by malaysian. The information did not incite us to invade malaysia.

No worry if this thread will be hijacked by malaysian forumer. I want to know their responses on Jali-Jali and Indang cases. They might have "elegantly" made up an excuse on Rasa Sayang Hey (their version of Rasa Sayange) as Malay folk song. Now I'm curious, what is their "elegant" take on the other two songs.....

[r4d1ty4]

sedikit oot..agak ga penting malah..waktu itu gw donlod lagu Dewa lewat LimeWire..pas gw masukin iTunes ehhh genrenya : "Malaysian Pop"..

busehhh...

[rilham2new]

Originally Posted by Omluki

Relax bro, Gatra only gave us info on some Indonesian songs that was claimed by malaysian. The information did not incite us to invade malaysia.

No worry if this thread will be hijacked by malaysian forumer. I want to know their responses on Jali-Jali and Indang cases. They might have "elegantly" made up an excuse on Rasa Sayang Hey (their version of Rasa Sayange) as Malay folk song. Now I'm curious, what is their "elegant" take on the other two songs.....

well,, aq juga nunggu aja kalo gitu dahh

[AceN]

nungguin ilham sama omluki ahh..........

[zein_el dine]

Originally Posted by Omluki

Relax bro, Gatra only gave us info on some Indonesian songs that was claimed by malaysian. The information did not incite us to invade malaysia.

No worry if this thread will be hijacked by malaysian forumer. I want to know their responses on Jali-Jali and Indang cases. They might have "elegantly" made up an excuse on Rasa Sayang Hey (their version of Rasa Sayange) as Malay folk song. Now I'm curious, what is their "elegant" take on the other two songs.....

Warga Malaysia terutama Generasi Muda agak kurang pengetahuan tentang asal muasal lagu lagu rakyat kerna tidak mendapat pendedahan dari pihak Malaysia! Selama 1 generasi di Malaysia ( Late 80s till early 2000) lagu Indonesia agak kurang mendapat tempat di Radio maupun TV kerna dasar support Malaysian Artist. Walaupun lagu Jali Jali, Burung Kakak Tua, Sarinande, Soleram dan juga Rasa Sayange popular sebagai lagu rakyat tapi pendedahan asal muasal tidak didedahkan! Malah lagu Melayu yang berasal dari daerah Indonesia seperti Sri Lankat, Inang Pulau Kampai pernah dikatogerikan sebagai lagu 'Irama Malaysia'. Tetapi kebelakangan ini ungkapan 'Irama Malaysia' sudah tidak digunakan lagi.
Its good that the issue of Rasa Sayange were brought up by Indonesian so as to give awareness to the ignorant Malaysian as to the origin of these folk songs!http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/shake.gif
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/bash.gif

[kamski]

Lol you guys are so easy...

[AceN]

Good reply zinedine..eh..zein_el_dine..

[AceN]

-De-Pe-

[Alvin]

I think this is something to be proud of.
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Indonesia's blend of democracy and Islam wins award
Email Printer friendly version Normal font Large font Mark Forbes, Bali
November 13, 2007


INDONESIA has been hailed for proving that Islam and democracy can co-exist by establishing and maintaining the only functioning democracy in South-East Asia.

Indonesia's people and President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono were yesterday awarded the Democracy Medal by the International Association of Political Consultants. Before delegates in Bali and most of his cabinet, Dr Yudhoyono said Indonesia had transformed itself in less than a decade and would never return to repression.

Although sceptics had claimed Indonesia would splinter or radicalise, "the heart and soul of Indonesia remains moderate and progressive", Dr Yudhoyono said. "In Indonesia democracy, Islam and modernity go hand in hand.

"Democracy in Indonesia has reached a point of no return," said the nation's first directly elected president.

The president of the association, Ben Goddard, said: "Indonesia is a shining example of hope". The most populous Muslim nation had demonstrated that Islamic values were compatible with democracy, he said.

The association's Asian head, Pri Sulisto, said Indonesia's success in implementing democracy "serves as an example for Asian countries, most of which are still ruled by iron-fist regimes".

Political scientist and author Kevin Evans said Indonesia was, along with India, the only truly functional democracy in Asia.

The award highlighted the significant progress made since the dictator Soeharto was forced to resign in 1998, Mr Evans said.

Now, for the first time, every politician is directly elected, he said. "The nation is also passing the terrorism test without winding back human rights and free speech."

The Indonesian people, through demonstrations, brought about the collapse of the Soeharto regime and in 2004 Indonesia held the largest single-day election in the world, Mr Goddard said.

From being ruled by corrupt elites, the "pyramid of power" had been "turned upside down" by bringing democracy to the people, Dr Yudhoyono said. "Indonesia has proved that no matter the size of the population, the difficult geography, ethnic diversity political complexity or historical background, democracy can come and grow."

It is the first time in 25 years the award from political consultants and advisers across the globe has been granted to a nation. Previous recipients include Nelson Mandela and Aung San Suu Kyi.

[rilham2new]

Originally Posted by zein_el dine

Warga Malaysia terutama Generasi Muda agak kurang pengetahuan tentang asal muasal lagu lagu rakyat kerna tidak mendapat pendedahan dari pihak Malaysia! Selama 1 generasi di Malaysia ( Late 80s till early 2000) lagu Indonesia agak kurang mendapat tempat di Radio maupun TV kerna dasar support Malaysian Artist. Walaupun lagu Jali Jali, Burung Kakak Tua, Sarinande, Soleram dan juga Rasa Sayange popular sebagai lagu rakyat tapi pendedahan asal muasal tidak didedahkan! Malah lagu Melayu yang berasal dari daerah Indonesia seperti Sri Lankat, Inang Pulau Kampai pernah dikatogerikan sebagai lagu 'Irama Malaysia'. Tetapi kebelakangan ini ungkapan 'Irama Malaysia' sudah tidak digunakan lagi.
Its good that the issue of Rasa Sayange were brought up by Indonesian so as to give awareness to the ignorant Malaysian as to the origin of these folk songs!http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/shake.gif
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/bash.gif

Errmm,, AMBOI SRI LANGKAT is indeed Melayu Deli (North Sumatra ) song,,, ... My mother can confirm that

[rilham2new]

Welll,,, this news will surprise some of us ...


source: JPNN (posted on RIAUPOS)
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Batal, Perjanjian Pertahanan Indonesia-Singapura *well, the title is just a sensation,,, I suggest u read the whole news ..... Ini style berita JPNN .... So, be calm pal ...
13 Nopember 2007 Pukul 08:47


JAKARTA (RP)-Perbedaan pendapat soal aturan pelaksanaan (Implementing Arrangement/IA) perjanjian pertahanan (Defence Cooperation Agreement) antara Indonesia dan Singapura akhirnya membuat pelaksanaan perjanjian tersebut benar-benar terhambat. Parlemen kedua negara pun tidak mau meratifikasi perjanjian yang memungkinkan kerja sama pelatihan perang ketiga angkatan dua negara bertetangga tersebut. Karena perjanjian itu pelaksanaannya disepakati satu paket dengan perjanjian ekstradisi, maka otomatis perjanjian tersebut juga dihentikan.

‘’Karena belum dicapai kesepakatan soal IA DCA, kita sepakat untuk put aside (mengenyampingkan, red) perjanjian itu,’’ kata Menlu Nur Hassan Wirajuda di Hotel Sultan kawasan Senayan, Senin (12/11). Diapun tidak mengetahui sampai kapan perjanjian tersebut akan dilanjutkan bahkan diratifikasi oleh DPR masing-masing negara.

Apakah masih menunggu angin baik lagi? Dengan tersenyum, dia mengiyakan. ‘’Iya kita masih tunggu anginnya kapan bisa mulai berunding lagi,’’ katanya sesaat sebelum pergi ke Bandara Soekarno Hatta. Menurutnya, bagi Singapura perjanjian DCA yang telah ditanda-tangani oleh Presiden Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono dan PM Singapura Lee Hsien Long di Istana Tampak Siring Juni lalu sudah tinggal dilaksanakan. ‘’Menurut pemikiran Singapura perjanjian DCA sudah on the right track, tapi tidak bagi kita,’’ tambahnya. Karena DCA sudah macet, otomatis perjanjian ekstradisi juga macet.

Nampaknya, harapan bagi pemerintah Indonesia untuk bisa memulangkan terdakwa kasus dugaan korupsi dan asetnya dari Singapura akan sulit terwujud. Pasalnya, syarat perjanjian ekstradisi bisa berjalan setelah perjanjian DCA selesai diratifikasi oleh parlemen kedua negara. Padahal komisi I DPR sudah mengisyaratkan tak ingin meratifikasi DCA. Ini terbukti dari komentar anggota Komisi I DPR Abdillah Toha soal DCA. ‘’Kalau DCA tidak mungkin disetujui, haram hukumnya meratifikasi itu,’’ tegasnya.

Juli lalu, Menlu Nur Hassan Wirajuda mengatakan pasca penandatanganan DCA dan Ekstradisi belum ada pembicaraan lebih lanjut. Lebih lanjut, suami Herawati itu mengatakan, Indonesia sedang menunggu sinyal untuk melakukan pembicaraan IA DCA.

‘’Sementara ini belum ada pembicaraan yang spesifik mengenai waktu perundingan,’’ kata Hassan, ketika ditanya kapan perundingan dimulai. Menurut menteri kelahiran Tangerang itu, meskipun Singapura belum merespon ajakan Indonesia, pemerintah masih ingin melanjutkan perjanjian pertahanan tersebut.

‘’Kalau ada respon dari Singapura kita tetap akan meneruskan perjanjian itu,’’ tegasnya.

Sebelumnya, Departemen Luar Negeri Singapura telah mengirimkan dua lembar press release yang isinya menegaskan itikad baik pihaknya dalam meneruskan perjanjian DCA. Dalam pemberitahuan tersebut, juga dikatakan bahwa mereka telah mengirimkan sebuah proposal yang berhubungan dengan IA (implementasi) DCA tapi Indonesia belum merespon. Ketika dimintai tanggapan, Hassan dengan tegas mengatakan proposal itu adalah proposal lama yang diberikan oleh pemerintah Singapura pada 7 Mei lalu.

Mereka memberikan proposal tersebut saat membicarakan implementing agreement (IA) di Hotel Shangrilla. ‘’Saat itu kita sudah memberikan jawaban bahwa sesuai pasal 6 perjanjian DCA ada keperluan untuk membuat aturan pelaksanaan latihan militer yang tercantum dalam draft DCA,’’ bebernya. Menurut Hassan, jika diantara kedua belah pihak menemui jalan buntu dan tidak ada perundingan tentang IA maka perjanjian pertahanan (DCA) dianggap belum selesai. Pasalnya tidak ditemukan kesepakatan tentang pengaturan latihan militer khususnya di kawasan Bravo.(nue/jpnn)

[paw25694]

BAGUS!

[AceN]

HoooooRREeeeeeeee.......!!!!

[peseg5]

Ekstradisi jg batal dong?

[rilham2new]

ohh, gak.... bahasa kerennya SUSPENDED

[XxRyoChanxX]

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