Alpine Pass Roads

[Maxx☢Power]

Originally Posted by CborG

Our group with the pass on the background:

What's that guy on the right doing?

[Bahnsteig4]

Don´t like the landscape that much, the peaks aren´t realy ocky with beautiful rockwalls and so on.

[radi6404]

Originally Posted by davidkunz/VIE

Why do you laugh?

Rila mountain

[Bahnsteig4]

Why? Because you've obviously never visited Stelvio.

[CborG]

Stelvio was really frightening, really narrow road with tight corners, tunnels without lights, vertical drop-offs. Our fully packed Renault Trafic barely made it to the top, the last corners in 1st gear(!) And then downhill, again very steep which caused the brakes to smell in a way you don't want to.

That pic above of me and my friends was taken after we conquered the pass

The other side of the Pass, you can see the tunnels clearly in the upper right corner:



Enough rock formations for you, Radi?

[radi6404]

here yes, but on the other pic there were a lot of meadows.

[Verso]

Originally Posted by Verso

Dying lion by the road to the Predel/Predil Pass (1156 m) with Italy:

Can some (good) German-speaker explain to me why it says "... und der mit ihm ...", when I think it should be "... den ..."?

Now I really regret for not visiting Stelvio.

[Verso]

Originally Posted by CborG

Yeah, well it's the second highest pass in the Alps. The highest is Col de l'Iseran which is 2770 meters high.

You gave me an idea of showing it:







=)

[CborG]

I wonder if the road over that pass is as impressive and intimidating as the one over Stelvio. Btw, a nice site with many pics and info on almost all european passes is http://www.climbbybike.com/


Col de l'Iseran

Stelvio:


Stelvio ranks 40th worldwide, col de l'Iseran 237th

this is the nr 1, Scanuppia - Malga Palazzo



Nice percentage

[KIWIKAAS]

Originally Posted by CborG

Stelvio was really frightening, really narrow road with tight corners, tunnels without lights, vertical drop-offs. Our fully packed Renault Trafic barely made it to the top, the last corners in 1st gear(!) And then downhill, again very steep which caused the brakes to smell in a way you don't want to.

That pic above of me and my friends was taken after we conquered the pass

The other side of the Pass, you can see the tunnels clearly in the upper right corner:

Absolutely awesom. What a road!

[Bahnsteig4]

Can some (good) German-speaker explain to me why it says "... und der mit ihm ...", when I think it should be "... den ..."?

Haha, tricky question. Shows that your German is close to perfect, when you ask about details like this.

"Der mit ihm" refers back to "Heldentod" and is a genitive. So it's "der Heldentod der mit ihm gefallenen". Get it? I hope so, as I can't explain it better. I'm a proficient German speaker, but by no means a teacher. But feel free to ask again.

[Verso]

^ But it says "den Heldentod" (accusative). And isn't it "der Kampfgenosse", so masculine? "Der" appears in genitive only by feminine and plural, not masculine. So then it should be "und des mit ihm"?

[Bahnsteig4]

""Zur Erinnerung an den Heldentod (des Ingenieurs...) und an den Heldentod der (mit ihm) Gefallenen."

"Heldentod der Gefallenen" is a masculine genitive plural, regardless of the accusative of "den Heldentod". "Zur Erinnerung an" demands an accusative, but it does not interfere with the form after "Heldentod".

[Verso]

^ How on earth can it be plural, when Ferdinand I. is (was) just 1 man?

[Jeroen669]

Originally Posted by CborG

Nice percentage

What kind of crazy car do you need to have to get up there??

[Qwert]

Originally Posted by Jeroen669

What kind of crazy car do you need to have to get up there??

Helicopter probably.

[ChrisZwolle]

Nah 45% is about 24 degrees? I think some ramps in parking garages are this steep too.

[Verso]

Originally Posted by Jeroen669

What kind of crazy car do you need to have to get up there??

image hosted on flickr


xD

[Bahnsteig4]

Kaiser Ferdinand was not killed, not among "die Gefallenen". He dedicated this memorial to them.

[Verso]

^ Oh god, I wasn't even thinking! Yeah, he wasn't even emperor yet (and it's not like emperors fight usually anyway), although I kept reading it 1889 instead of 1809. Thanks for clearing this up. Now also the grammar is ok.