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Old November 10th, 2007, 02:46 PM   #41
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Our group with the pass on the background:

What's that guy on the right doing?
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Old November 10th, 2007, 03:49 PM   #42
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Don´t like the landscape that much, the peaks aren´t realy ocky with beautiful rockwalls and so on.

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Old November 10th, 2007, 04:50 PM   #43
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Old November 10th, 2007, 05:30 PM   #44
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Why? Because you've obviously never visited Stelvio.
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Old November 10th, 2007, 05:44 PM   #45
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Stelvio was really frightening, really narrow road with tight corners, tunnels without lights, vertical drop-offs. Our fully packed Renault Trafic barely made it to the top, the last corners in 1st gear(!) And then downhill, again very steep which caused the brakes to smell in a way you don't want to.

That pic above of me and my friends was taken after we conquered the pass

The other side of the Pass, you can see the tunnels clearly in the upper right corner:



Enough rock formations for you, Radi?
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Old November 10th, 2007, 05:53 PM   #46
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here yes, but on the other pic there were a lot of meadows.
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Old November 10th, 2007, 05:55 PM   #47
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Dying lion by the road to the Predel/Predil Pass (1156 m) with Italy:
Can some (good) German-speaker explain to me why it says "... und der mit ihm ...", when I think it should be "... den ..."?

Now I really regret for not visiting Stelvio.
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Old November 10th, 2007, 06:14 PM   #48
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Yeah, well it's the second highest pass in the Alps. The highest is Col de l'Iseran which is 2770 meters high.
You gave me an idea of showing it:







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Old November 10th, 2007, 07:02 PM   #49
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I wonder if the road over that pass is as impressive and intimidating as the one over Stelvio. Btw, a nice site with many pics and info on almost all european passes is http://www.climbbybike.com/


Col de l'Iseran

Stelvio:


Stelvio ranks 40th worldwide, col de l'Iseran 237th

this is the nr 1, Scanuppia - Malga Palazzo



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Old November 10th, 2007, 09:35 PM   #50
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Stelvio was really frightening, really narrow road with tight corners, tunnels without lights, vertical drop-offs. Our fully packed Renault Trafic barely made it to the top, the last corners in 1st gear(!) And then downhill, again very steep which caused the brakes to smell in a way you don't want to.

That pic above of me and my friends was taken after we conquered the pass

The other side of the Pass, you can see the tunnels clearly in the upper right corner:
Absolutely awesom. What a road!
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Old November 10th, 2007, 11:52 PM   #51
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Can some (good) German-speaker explain to me why it says "... und der mit ihm ...", when I think it should be "... den ..."?
Haha, tricky question. Shows that your German is close to perfect, when you ask about details like this.

"Der mit ihm" refers back to "Heldentod" and is a genitive. So it's "der Heldentod der mit ihm gefallenen". Get it? I hope so, as I can't explain it better. I'm a proficient German speaker, but by no means a teacher. But feel free to ask again.
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Old November 11th, 2007, 12:36 PM   #52
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^ But it says "den Heldentod" (accusative). And isn't it "der Kampfgenosse", so masculine? "Der" appears in genitive only by feminine and plural, not masculine. So then it should be "und des mit ihm"?

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Old November 11th, 2007, 01:23 PM   #53
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""Zur Erinnerung an den Heldentod (des Ingenieurs...) und an den Heldentod der (mit ihm) Gefallenen."

"Heldentod der Gefallenen" is a masculine genitive plural, regardless of the accusative of "den Heldentod". "Zur Erinnerung an" demands an accusative, but it does not interfere with the form after "Heldentod".
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Old November 11th, 2007, 01:29 PM   #54
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^ How on earth can it be plural, when Ferdinand I. is (was) just 1 man?

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Old November 11th, 2007, 03:39 PM   #55
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What kind of crazy car do you need to have to get up there??
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Old November 11th, 2007, 05:28 PM   #56
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What kind of crazy car do you need to have to get up there??
Helicopter probably.
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Old November 11th, 2007, 05:55 PM   #57
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Nah 45% is about 24 degrees? I think some ramps in parking garages are this steep too.
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Old November 11th, 2007, 05:59 PM   #58
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Kaiser Ferdinand was not killed, not among "die Gefallenen". He dedicated this memorial to them.
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Old November 11th, 2007, 06:41 PM   #60
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^ Oh god, I wasn't even thinking! Yeah, he wasn't even emperor yet (and it's not like emperors fight usually anyway), although I kept reading it 1889 instead of 1809. Thanks for clearing this up. Now also the grammar is ok.
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