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Old June 3rd, 2011, 12:10 AM   #2081
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I think it is overestimated that applying the vignette to all roads will significantly reduce traffic levels in Bratislava. This is the richest region of Slovakia, and the effects of monetary sanctions on road traffic is not that big, unless you want to play hardball and are really willing to price the poor off the road.
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Old June 3rd, 2011, 12:29 AM   #2082
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I think it is overestimated that applying the vignette to all roads will significantly reduce traffic levels in Bratislava. This is the richest region of Slovakia, and the effects of monetary sanctions on road traffic is not that big, unless you want to play hardball and are really willing to price the poor off the road.
The best solution would be to offer attractive public transport to the commuters who would then deliberately choose it over individual transport. Public transport in Slovakia is still pretty much in socialism.
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Old June 3rd, 2011, 06:16 AM   #2083
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IMO primary goal is not to reduce traffic, but to get money to build and operate expensive motorways. No exceptions for urban motorways. And yes, all tunnels should have extra toll.
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Old June 3rd, 2011, 07:56 AM   #2084
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IMO primary goal is not to reduce traffic, but to get money to build and operate expensive motorways.
If that's the case, then it would be better to require vignettes for all roads, not just for motorways.
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Old June 3rd, 2011, 10:28 AM   #2085
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What Bratislava needs is D4, upgrade of Prístavný bridge (D1) to 2x4 and new connection in the northern part of the city:
I can't wait to see this road under construction but probably it won't start soon. I was surprised by estimated cost which was about 200 million € in 2008, isn't way too much?
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Old June 3rd, 2011, 11:59 AM   #2086
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IMO primary goal is not to reduce traffic, but to get money to build and operate expensive motorways. No exceptions for urban motorways. And yes, all tunnels should have extra toll.
Vignettes would hardly pay construction of new sections. Last year the revenues were about 33 million €. If urban motorways were tolled, the revenues would perhaps grow a bit, but I strongly doubt it would be more than 1 mil. € or so. Tolling them makes sense if you want to regulate traffic flow, if you want to earn money, you have to propose something else.

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I can't wait to see this road under construction but probably it won't start soon. I was surprised by estimated cost which was about 200 million € in 2008, isn't way too much?
It contains one 700 m long tunnel, another 360 m long underpass (almost tunnel), bridge above the railway, three fly-over interchanges and modifications of adjacent streets. Overall length is supposed to be more than 3 km. It's not that simple project as it may look. I think it's worth of those money though. It's probably more important than upgrade of Prístavný bridge.
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Old June 3rd, 2011, 12:35 PM   #2087
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It contains one 700 m long tunnel, another 360 m long underpass (almost tunnel), bridge above the railway, three fly-over interchanges and modifications of adjacent streets. Overall length is supposed to be more than 3 km. It's not that simple project as it may look. I think it's worth of those money though. It's probably more important than upgrade of Prístavný bridge.
I am not sure whether it is more important than upgrade of Harbour bridge but probably it is more important than renovation of Old bridge. On the other hand, Old bridge needs to be renovated as soon as possible because of the new tram track which is one of the biggest hopes for our overcrowded bridges.

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Old June 3rd, 2011, 01:44 PM   #2088
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I am not sure whether it is more important than upgrade of Harbour bridge but probably it is more important than renovation of Old bridge. On the other hand, Old bridge needs to be renovated as soon as possible because of the new tram track which is one of the biggest hopes for our overcrowded bridges.
This northern connection will divert some traffic from Prístavný bridge. Destination of many vehicles on the bridge isn't really Petržalka. Plenty of drivers use motorway ring to get from north-eastern part of the city to north-western and vice-versa.

Reconstruction of Starý bridge is definitely important. Petržalka needs high capacity public transport connection with the opposite bank of Danube separated from crowded streets.
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Old June 9th, 2011, 01:38 PM   #2089
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New form of horizontal road arrows on urban expressway in Košice.



















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Old June 14th, 2011, 06:47 PM   #2090
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Construction of the first 9 km long section of Jánovce - Jablonov (D1) starts on 20.6., second 9,45 km long section goes to tender and winner will be known in Autumn. Constructor of 11,2 km long section Fričovce-Svinia between tunnel Branisko and Svinia (near Prešov) will be known on 27.6., construction may start in August. Last section which goes to tender is very important one, constructor of 16,45 km long secton Dubná skala-Turany will be known on 2.8. and construction will start in October.

Cost of all these sections will be about 913,2 million €, when they will be build there will be just about 40 km left to finish D1 motorway between out 2 biggest cities.

Hopefuly, we will see more km of motorway D1 under construction this autumn.
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Old June 14th, 2011, 06:59 PM   #2091
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Is that sector near Zilina already U/C?
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Old June 14th, 2011, 10:02 PM   #2092
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Is that sector near Zilina already U/C?
Do you mean southern (D1) by-pass of Žilina and tunnel Višňové? No, it isn't because it is very expensive and short section, but section Dubná Skala - Turany is the one which goes from tunnel Višňové to east and this one will be under construction soon.
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Old June 14th, 2011, 10:19 PM   #2093
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To make it clear, there are two gaps between Poprad and Prešov which are going to be filled (Jánovce - Jablonov, and Fričovce - Svinia). Construction of the northern bypass of Martin (Dubná Skala - Turany) will also start soon. Martin is town east of Žilina.

Ministry is openly speaking bypass of Žilina will be ready only in 2017, although construction should start already next year. In the meantime, however, all remaining sections between Žilina and Košice will get built including some sections east of Košice. (I'm not sure about western bypass of Prešov though.)
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Old June 15th, 2011, 08:45 PM   #2094
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btw, http://maps.google.com finally shows actual map of Slovak motorways and expressways
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Old June 20th, 2011, 01:47 PM   #2095
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9km long section Jánovce - Levoča on D1 motorway is oficially under construction.
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 06:08 PM   #2096
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Kostiviarska junction on R1 by-pass of Banská Bystrica -


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Cool pic. When is the opening?
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 06:23 PM   #2098
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On 4.7.2012.

28.9.2011 all sections between Nitra and Tekovské Nemce will be in use which means that Banská Bystrica will get a motorway connection with Bratislava and the rest of the EU.
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Old June 27th, 2011, 03:36 PM   #2099
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Snapshot from Považská Bystrica, roundabout beneath the D1 bridge has been completed.

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Old June 27th, 2011, 11:55 PM   #2100
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Doesn't it feel too dominating ?
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