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Old July 14th, 2008, 10:00 PM   #221
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Old July 14th, 2008, 10:18 PM   #222
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Who funds the project,the city or the state?
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Old July 15th, 2008, 01:07 AM   #223
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No signs for Uzhorod in Kosice?
No, or not yet. They might to install signs after completing the D1 Košice-Michalovce-Uzhorod, which is likely to happen after the completition of D1 to Košice and D3. Maybe also the reason is, that even if Uzhorod is bigger city, than Michalovce, Michalovce with 40th. inhabbitants is not that small at all. Signs in Michalovce might indicate Uzhorod.
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Old July 15th, 2008, 04:32 AM   #224
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How far are Kosice and Uzhorod apart? And how long does it take there to cross the border?
Btw, I remember seeing some sign in Poprad indicating the UA border
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Old July 15th, 2008, 02:32 PM   #225
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How far are Kosice and Uzhorod apart? And how long does it take there to cross the border?
Btw, I remember seeing some sign in Poprad indicating the UA border
Timon, Kosice-Uzhorod is ca. 100km distance. The 1st class road there is wide and despite increasing number of vehicles it is still sufficient. But the situation might change after 2010. The main problem to travel there is Dargov mountain bypass.
Following up Slovakia Schengen entry the border average waiting time, according to data from December, was ca. 4 hours, which was quite long. Latest data from July indicates 2 hours for trucks and 1 hour for passenger cars.

I´ve never been in Poprad for three years, so you brought some fresher information

Also new expressway is planned from Prešov up to Ubľa. here is the map:


source:www.dialnice.info
orange: expressway Prešov-Vranov-Humenné-Ubľa

But this expressway is not in the official highway and expressway network plans, but the mayors in the region lobby for it. The construction could start following up the completition of D1 Košice-Michalovce-Uzhorod.
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Old July 15th, 2008, 04:08 PM   #226
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Old July 15th, 2008, 05:40 PM   #227
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New section of expressway R3 Oravský Podzámok - Horná Lehota is going to be opened. R3 is part of international corridor E77. It connects Budapest with Krakow and it leads through very mountainous central Slovakia. It's being build only partially and half-profile.

Frankly speaking it connects Budapest with Gdansk via Warsaw.
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Old July 15th, 2008, 10:36 PM   #228
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No, or not yet. They might to install signs after completing the D1 Košice-Michalovce-Uzhorod, which is likely to happen after the completition of D1 to Košice and D3. Maybe also the reason is, that even if Uzhorod is bigger city, than Michalovce, Michalovce with 40th. inhabbitants is not that small at all. Signs in Michalovce might indicate Uzhorod.
I wonder if that signs will be in Cyrillic or if they will transcribed or simply in Slovak Užhorod. You know e.g. in Bratislava there is written Wien instead of Viedeň or Győr instead of Ráb. It would be interesting to see Ужгород in Košice.

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Who funds the project,the city or the state?
It's project of Slovak Road Authority what is state organisation. So the answer is state. I doubt Košice would ever manage to built it from their own money, not to mention they even cannot since it's first class road which are all owned by state and maintained by Slovak Road Authority.

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Also new expressway is planned from Prešov up to Ubľa. here is the map:

But this expressway is not in the official highway and expressway network plans, but the mayors in the region lobby for it. The construction could start following up the completition of D1 Košice-Michalovce-Uzhorod.
Prešov - Ubľa is part of so called complementary expressway network which should be build in further future after all expressways: R1 - R8 will be built. Other complementary expressway are for instance Nitra - Nové zámky - Komárno - Hungarian border, Lučenec - Fiľakovo - Bukovinka - Hungarian border and of course Bratislava - Senec - Sereď which is actually more needed than some already planned expressways and so on.

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New section of expressway R3 Oravský Podzámok - Horná Lehota is going to be opened. R3 is part of international corridor E77. It connects Budapest with Krakow and it leads through very mountainous central Slovakia. It's being build only partially and half-profile.

Frankly speaking it connects Budapest with Gdansk via Warsaw.
I think you mean that this section was finished. It was opened before, but it wasn't finished.
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Old July 15th, 2008, 11:03 PM   #229
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I wonder if that signs will be in Cyrillic or if they will transcribed or simply in Slovak Užhorod. You know e.g. in Bratislava there is written Wien instead of Viedeň or Győr instead of Ráb. It would be interesting to see Ужгород in Košice.
Well, I ´ve made some search and the signs in Michalovce already indicates Uzhorod and they are of course in Latin, because many drivers with no knowledge of Russian, not to talk about quit a few tourists just would not understand.
IMHO Austria has a good system of signage, indications arte mostly in the language of foreign country /e.g. direction Bratislava on the most signs is Bratislava, Brno on the most signs is Brno, sometimes it is Pressburg, or Brunn, etc..../ I think the same system we should incorporate, Ráb, Viedeň, etc.. on some signs, not entirely in the foreign language like iot is now, Praha on German A17 is just Prag for example.


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Prešov - Ubľa is part of so called complementary expressway network which should be build in further future after all expressways: R1 - R8 will be built. Other complementary expressway are for instance Nitra - Nové zámky - Komárno - Hungarian border, Lučenec - Fiľakovo - Bukovinka - Hungarian border and of course Bratislava - Senec - Sereď which is actually more needed than some already planned expressways and so on. .
And Makov-CZ border - connection to R35, then Sudoměřice-Skalica-Senica TT, two additional expressway connections to Poland, etc... But it depends. R8 from Nitra to Topoľčany and Partizánske will be built, if current government stays in power for the next election term, before the completition of other expressways, except for R1.
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Old July 15th, 2008, 11:42 PM   #230
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Well, I ´ve made some search and the signs in Michalovce already indicates Uzhorod and they are of course in Latin, because many drivers with no knowledge of Russian, not to talk about quit a few tourists just would not understand.
IMHO Austria has a good system of signage, indications arte mostly in the language of foreign country /e.g. direction Bratislava on the most signs is Bratislava, Brno on the most signs is Brno, sometimes it is Pressburg, or Brunn, etc..../ I think the same system we should incorporate, Ráb, Viedeň, etc.. on some signs, not entirely in the foreign language like iot is now, Praha on German A17 is just Prag for example.
I think our current motorway signage is just fine. If you are travelling to some city or in direction to some city you should, IMO, know what is the name of the city in local language. Not to mention for example many Slovaks know Győr, but they don't know that in Slovak it's Ráb and they simply call it "Ďér." Of course there could be problems like in Uzhgord case because majority of Slovaks don't know Cyrillic. In this case probably both names should be used, although otherwise I don't like double names, they are making mess on signs.

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And Makov-CZ border - connection to R35, then Sudoměřice-Skalica-Senica TT, two additional expressway connections to Poland, etc... But it depends. R8 from Nitra to Topoľčany and Partizánske will be built, if current government stays in power for the next election term, before the completition of other expressways, except for R1.
Yes, one would say every first class road should by bypassed by an expressway, but this won't happen in next 100 years I guess.

R8 now belongs to regular expressway network. When it will be built? By accident tomorrow our government has session in home town of our prime minister in Topoľčany, so I think we will have more information soon. IMO, if we are talking about when entire expressways will be finished then this one could be among the first since it's in very easy flat terrain and it should be only some 60 km long.
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Old July 16th, 2008, 02:13 AM   #231
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Well, I ´ve made some search and the signs in Michalovce already indicates Uzhorod and they are of course in Latin, because many drivers with no knowledge of Russian, not to talk about quit a few tourists just would not understand.
In Hungary it's "Munkács - Мукачеве" (of course that's another town).
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Old July 16th, 2008, 06:21 PM   #232
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R8 now belongs to regular expressway network. When it will be built? By accident tomorrow our government has session in home town of our prime minister in Topoľčany, so I think we will have more information soon. IMO, if we are talking about when entire expressways will be finished then this one could be among the first since it's in very easy flat terrain and it should be only some 60 km long.
So now it's clear. Expressway R8 Nitra (interchange with R1) - Topoľčany - Partizánske - Hradište (interchange with R2) will be 65 km long and its cost is estimated on EUR 282 million. It should be prepared for construction until 2010.

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http://tvojepeniaze.pravda.sk/topolc..._sk_pludia_p01
http://ekonomika.sme.sk/c/3978435/Ce...tnu-cestu.html

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In Hungary it's "Munkács - Мукачеве" (of course that's another town).
It's another town and totally different type of signage.


BTW, if we are talking about signage, this is how motorway and expressway exits should be signed according to new Road Act:



Besides name of the exit and distance which you can see on the green part of the sign and which also shows you how present exit signs look like there will be more information available. IMO the most important is number of exit:



In blue part of the sign are destinations which you can reach by the road you are exiting on, white are some important local destinations and brown are tourist spots.

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Old July 16th, 2008, 07:23 PM   #233
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So Slovakia is getting new signage ?
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Old July 16th, 2008, 07:26 PM   #234
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So now it's clear. Expressway R8 Nitra (interchange with R1) - Topoľčany - Partizánske - Hradište (interchange with R2) will be 65 km long and its cost is estimated on EUR 282 million. It should be prepared for construction until 2010.

Links in Slovak:
http://tvojepeniaze.pravda.sk/topolc..._sk_pludia_p01
http://ekonomika.sme.sk/c/3978435/Ce...tnu-cestu.html .
Thanks for the up to date information. I´ve tried to estimate the future R8, i think it will be using the existing bypass of Topoľčany, on other sections it should be newly built, because from Nitra to Topoľčany it is along the 1class road continously urbanised area, well, mostly villages.

Sorry for the quality of the drawing, but at least to have some imagination:




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BTW, if we are talking about signage, this is how motorway and expressway exits should be signed according to new Road Act:



Besides name of the exit and distance which you can see on the green part of the sign and which also shows you how present exit signs look like there will be more information available. IMO the most important is number of exit:



In blue part of the sign are destinations which you can reach by the road you are exiting on, white are some important local destinations and brown are tourist spots.
Well, I think in Czech republic and Austria they already have the signage to recreational and tourists spot, it´s good we will have them too.
The numbering of exits on the sign is better for the long distance travellers, but overall it clearly simplifies the drivers orientation.
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Old July 16th, 2008, 10:39 PM   #235
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So Slovakia is getting new signage ?
No, only some new signs:


Source: http://www.sme.sk/c/3977478/Nove-dopravne-znacky.html

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Thanks for the up to date information. I´ve tried to estimate the future R8, i think it will be using the existing bypass of Topoľčany, on other sections it should be newly built, because from Nitra to Topoľčany it is along the 1class road continously urbanised area, well, mostly villages.

Sorry for the quality of the drawing, but at least to have some imagination:



Well, I think in Czech republic and Austria they already have the signage to recreational and tourists spot, it´s good we will have them too.
The numbering of exits on the sign is better for the long distance travellers, but overall it clearly simplifies the drivers orientation.
Sorry, but your drawing is wrong. This is screenshot from masterplan of Nitra region where the expressway already is. Interesting is that this expressway is not in Trenčín region masterplan.


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Sorry, but your drawing is wrong. This is screenshot from masterplan of Nitra region where the expressway already is. Interesting is that this expressway is not in Trenčín region masterplan.
I know it is not precise, as I already wrote it´s just an estimation. Anyway, partly it follows already built Topoľčany bypass, so that is what is common with my estimated map.

Obviously it will serve the local traffic quite a few, as it is located between 64 and 531 roads. Left from road no.64 is just a flat terrain, right from 64 more hilly. Quite good is solved connection to Bratislava and Trnava, but from Nitra it will be a big roundabout way, most drivers will probably choose old way through Drážovce, which is crowded most of them time. I think direct connection to Nitra would not harm. But it is the case of money as well....
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Obviously it will serve the local traffic quite a few, as it is located between 64 and 531 roads. Left from road no.64 is just a flat terrain, right from 64 more hilly. Quite good is solved connection to Bratislava and Trnava, but from Nitra it will be a big roundabout way, most drivers will probably choose old way through Drážovce, which is crowded most of them time. I think direct connection to Nitra would not harm. But it is the case of money as well....
It depends what you consider local traffic. Traffic between the towns next to the expressway (e.g. from Topoľčany to Partizánske) will IMO use mainly the expressway. Of course traffic from Kamanová to Ludanice will use the old road. This expressway can attract also transit traffic since it's parallel to D1.

Eastern from I/64 it's flat and western from the road first terrace of the valley is rising so it's quite hilly. Expressway will be of course close to river Nitra on the place where the terrain is totally flat.

If you will look at the Nitra region masterplan carefully, you will see there is planned bypass of Drážovce and Čakajovce what will be in other words expressway feeder which will connect Nitra to R8. I think it will be part of the project as well as western bypass of Topoľčany.

"Roundabout" close to Nitra will be a connection with Bratislava and Trnava and also connection with Nové Zámky and Komárno. If you look at it from more global point of view it makes sense and there is no other option. Expressway obviously cannot end in the city, it must bypass it and end on another expressway, in this case R1.

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Today construction of the last missing section of D1 between Bratislava and Žilina officially started. This section will run through the city of Považská Bystrica on the viaduct. In 2010 when it will be completed we will finaly have continuous motorway all the way from Bratislava to Žilina.

Link in Slovak: http://ekonomika.sme.sk/c/3979962/Na...do-Ziliny.html
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That's great news!
Has a plan yet been made up about D1 from Zilina to Liptovsky Mikulas?
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That's great news!
Has a plan yet been made up about D1 from Zilina to Liptovsky Mikulas?
There are plans for whole D1 from Bratislava to Ukrainian border. If you mean some schedule, then government is talking about year 2012 as a deadline until whole D1 from Bratislava to Košice should be finished. I'm not that optimist, but I still hope...

EDIT:

Map, green section is already U/C, construction of grey section started today:

Source: http://www.highways.sk/

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