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Old December 31st, 2012, 03:48 PM   #2601
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IMO R1 is a better number for R3 between Žiar nad Hronom and Martin, since R3 takes a somewhat silly route between Zwolle Zvolen and Hubová. R1 from Žiar to Zvolen would be R2, and from there to Ružomberok would be R3 (Thus E77 in Slovakia would be R3 all the way), but I believe is no longer planned between Banská Bistrica and Ružomberok.

Both expressways, R1 Banska Bystrica - Ruzomberok and R3 Ziar nad Hronom - Martin are unprepared, they have only Enviromental Impact Analysis. They won't be in construction soon, so it's useless to discuss unimportant issues, such as expressway number. It may be changed in the future.

The most important task for next 2 years is to improve west-east connection
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Old January 5th, 2013, 12:20 AM   #2602
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Number of people killed in traffic accidents continues to decrease, there were 296 deaths in 2012. It's significant change compared to the most tragic year 1999 (819 deaths)



EU has given us a goal to decrease number of deaths under 300/year, so it's some kind of succes. Let's hope the safety will get even better!

source: http://www.minv.sk/?tlacove-spravy-2...ku-v-roku-2012
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Old January 5th, 2013, 02:05 PM   #2603
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Thus in 2013 there won't be opened any section of D1, actually the only opened section next year will 14 km long R4 between Košice an HU border.
Do you have any detailed information when the R4 will be opened?
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Old January 5th, 2013, 02:18 PM   #2604
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NDSAS says October 2013:

http://ndsas.sk/useky-kosice---st-hr-sk-h/44223s314c
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Old January 5th, 2013, 04:32 PM   #2605
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Do you have any detailed information when the R4 will be opened?
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Originally it was supposed to be opened by now, but due to extensive archaeological research in the area (they discovered almost a thousand sites) it was postponed to October (as stated on NDS page). The newest deadline, however, is December 2013, since the works on an interchange at the north end of the section were delayed. In case of any additional delay it could be postponed again and opened in the beginning of 2014 which would mean there won't be opened a single section this year.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 07:48 PM   #2606
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R4 will be delayed because junction between R4 and road I/68 (Kosice-South) is delayed. I simply can't understand why are they still using poor archeologists as an excuse

I made some pictures today, area on the last 3 pictures was subject of archeological research:

















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Old January 5th, 2013, 08:32 PM   #2607
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Number of people killed in traffic accidents continues to decrease, there were 296 deaths in 2012. It's significant change compared to the most tragic year 1999 (819 deaths)



EU has given us a goal to decrease number of deaths under 300/year, so it's some kind of succes. Let's hope the safety will get even better!

source: http://www.minv.sk/?tlacove-spravy-2...ku-v-roku-2012
It would be interesting to know if the drastic decrease is because of less accidents or because more people survive them.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 08:37 PM   #2608
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Probably both. I suppose the car fleet in Slovakia modernized a lot in recent years. Which means fewer fatalities. A trend in most countries with declining fatality rates is an increasing rate of severely injured.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 09:32 PM   #2609
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In 2009 they changed methodology and only people who die in 24 hours after the accident are counted as victims of car accidents. If they get seriously injured and and die after 24 hours, they are counted only as seriously injured, although in fact they are the victims. This decline is only statistical bullshit, in reality there was probably slight decline, but definitely not this big. This chart is not correct as figures before and after 2009 are not comparable. I would say real number is somewhere around 500, which is way too much.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 09:38 PM   #2610
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R4 will be delayed because junction between R4 and road I/68 (Kosice-South) is delayed. I simply can't understand why are they still using poor archeologists as an excuse

I made some pictures today, area on the last 3 pictures was subject of archeological research:

I think there is no weather problems, so they are using archeologic research as an excuse... It seems to take only some months to finish this part of R4. I think it`ll faster than october 2013.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 09:44 PM   #2611
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That depends on the overall progress. Sometimes a single lacking bridge can delay the whole project for months or even years.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 09:52 PM   #2612
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Plans for 2013

There were quite some information already posted, especially i15's map is very clear and informative, but here are complete statistics (I hope a didn't forget anything). Of course these are only plans and some sections may not actually start this year, especially D3 is quite dubious.

Construction start in 2013:

D1 Hubová – Ivachnová, 15.250 km
D1 Lietavská Lúčka – Dubná Skala, 13.575 km (including 8 km long tunnel Višňové)
D3 Svrčinovec – Skalité (2x1), 12.282 km

R2 Zvolen východ – Pstruša, 7.850 km
R2 Pstruša – Kriváň, 10.492 km
R2 Ruskovce – Pravotice (2x1), 10.765 m

Together 2x2: 47,167 km
Together 2x1: 23,047 km


Completion in 2013:

R4 Košice - HU border, 14.175 km

Together 2x2: 14.175 km


U/C in 2013 (i.e. sections started before 2013 which will be completed after 2013):

D1 Dubná Skala - Turany, 16.450 km
D1 Jánovce - Jablonov, 1 section, 9.000 km
D1 Jánovce - Jablonov, 2 section, 9.541 km
D1 Fričovce - Svinia, 11.217 km

R2 Žiar nad Hronom bypass (2x1), 5.760 km

Together 2x2: 46.208 km
Together 2x1: 5.760 km

Together 2x2 U/C by the end of 2013: 93.375 km*
Together 2x1 U/C by the end of 2013: 28.807 km*


*sections started before 2013 + sections started in 2013

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Old January 5th, 2013, 09:52 PM   #2613
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That depends on the overall progress. Sometimes a single lacking bridge can delay the whole project for months or even years.
For example MA532 in Poland, on A1 motorway near Polish border...
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Old January 5th, 2013, 09:55 PM   #2614
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It seems like everything but the R4xI/68 connection will be finished in summer

pictures of junction taken before Christmas:



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Old January 5th, 2013, 09:59 PM   #2615
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That depends on the overall progress. Sometimes a single lacking bridge can delay the whole project for months or even years.
Good thing is this section of R4 isn't actually very needed as the traffic south of Košice is mild and current road is quite good so even 5 years delay wouldn't really hurt. Another thing it on both ends this expressway is going to end on 2x1 bottlenecks and it will take few more years to eliminate them. To sum up, there's no reason to hurry.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 09:59 PM   #2616
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In 2009 they changed methodology and only people who die in 24 hours after the accident are counted as victims of car accidents. If they get seriously injured and and die after 24 hours, they are counted only as seriously injured, although in fact they are the victims. This decline is only statistical bullshit, in reality there was probably slight decline, but definitely not this big. This chart is not correct as figures before and after 2009 are not comparable. I would say real number is somewhere around 500, which is way too much.
I think change in statistics had only minor impact. This helped a lot:

1. speed in urban areas was lowered from 60 to 50
2. very high fines. I don't like it, but it's probably the only way to stop post-commie europeans to drive recklessly
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Old January 5th, 2013, 10:12 PM   #2617
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I think change in statistics had only minor impact. This helped a lot:

1. speed in urban areas was lowered from 60 to 50
2. very high fines. I don't like it, but it's probably the only way to stop post-commie europeans to drive recklessly
These factors have certainly impact on fatalities and and their real number is lower than before 2009, but changed methodology is also a fact. Needles to say the new methodology is very incorrect and against common sense because a man who died 23 hours after the accident is the same victim as a man who died 25 hours after the accident.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 10:35 PM   #2618
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If you are still alive 24 h after the accident chances are very good that modern medicine will save you. I would be surprised if there were more than 100 such cases.
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Old January 6th, 2013, 12:25 AM   #2619
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If you are still alive 24 h after the accident chances are very good that modern medicine will save you. I would be surprised if there were more than 100 such cases.
There are (or were) people who died after week or two after the accident. Question also is what is death? One's brain can be death within 24 hours after the accident, but medicine can keep the body alive for much longer time and official time of death (listed in documents) is when one's hearth stops beating.

But that's not the point. If someone gets seriously injured during the accident and then he dies due to his injuries, he is victim of the accident. That's what common sense says. It's absolutely irrelevant, whether it's 5 minutes or 5 months after it.
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Old January 6th, 2013, 12:29 AM   #2620
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