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Old January 26th, 2014, 03:44 PM   #2941
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It should be official in March.
According to the pictures you've attached it seems that the lane alligment traffic sings will be redesigned as well.
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Old January 29th, 2014, 03:31 PM   #2942
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Yes, some signs will be in different design.

Here are some examples from proposal (note strong Austrian influence). This proposal is from summer 2010 and I have no idea how many design changes were accepted. We'll see in March



















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Old January 31st, 2014, 05:07 PM   #2943
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Well, some new info

Arrows on mandatory signage will be redesigned according to ISO Standard 7001.


Two new signs were created:


For example some another arrow-design changes:


New sign for 3rd-class-roads numbering:


New design of bilingual city-limit signs:
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Old January 31st, 2014, 07:08 PM   #2944
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Well, some new info

Arrows on mandatory signage will be redesigned according to ISO Standard 7001.


Two new signs were created:


For example some another arrow-design changes:


New sign for 3rd-class-roads numbering:


New design of bilingual city-limit signs:
Those are you creations or something official. If latter one, then great success. I like that type of arrows more.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 07:21 PM   #2945
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Created by me according to official proposal

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Comparsion of old design (left) and new design (right):
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Old January 31st, 2014, 09:41 PM   #2946
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Am I the only one, who likes the old design more?
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Old January 31st, 2014, 09:53 PM   #2947
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Introduction of new signage would be an ideal time for introduction of new road numbering. Current system is messy. But it would be probably too optimistic tu expect it. But at least numbering system of motorways and expressways should be definitely changed, current system full of concurrent roads is just stupid.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 09:58 PM   #2948
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Much of the current Slovak road numbering is still based on the pre-1993 Czechoslovak road numbering. For example, the most important non-motorways in Slovakia are the relatively high-numbered I/18 and I/50, in fact the higher the number, the more important the road, in general (1/2-digit numbers).

I agree it would be a good opportunity to renumber the roads. They could work with stickers in the interim period that not all road signs are in need of replacement.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 11:33 PM   #2949
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Much of the current Slovak road numbering is still based on the pre-1993 Czechoslovak road numbering. For example, the most important non-motorways in Slovakia are the relatively high-numbered I/18 and I/50, in fact the higher the number, the more important the road, in general (1/2-digit numbers).

I agree it would be a good opportunity to renumber the roads. They could work with stickers in the interim period that not all road signs are in need of replacement.
That is the redundant of old Czechoslovakia numbering. Primary road should correspond to motorways and expressways they are parallel to (e.g. primary road I/1 and D1 motorway). Now, there is only one primary road marked by one digit (road I/2 parallel to D2 motorway).

The secondary roads need renumbering too: most of them are within 500-599 interval (because numbers below were reserved/used for/in Czech republic).

Also some changes are necessary in milestones and exit numbering. Most of sections in northern parts (either motorways or roads) were built during Czechoslovak times, when common D1 motorway had been planned and therefore kilometres are numbered from Rokycany near Plzen.

Here is the 536th kilometre of road I/18

I have an old map (atlas) from 1976 and the whole primary road from Rokycany to Presov is numbered as I/18. Czechs obviously already renumbered they roads, so road I/18 is lacking its first 400 kilometres
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But it would be probably too optimistic tu expect it.
Too optimistic

It took cca 4 years to enforce writing destinations on direction signs not-only-upper-case. That was prerequisite to introduce new typeface.

I can't imagine how many years/decades () will be necessary to enforce renumbering whole road system.
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Old February 2nd, 2014, 07:57 PM   #2951
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Am I the only one, who likes the old design more?
For a lot of the signs the new typeface is much clearer to read than the old (to me always seemed Italian-ish) typeface, but at the same time, it doesn't look as nice...
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 04:26 PM   #2952
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In most cases I really like the new signage better but I don't like the idea of abandoning white for inner city destinations and therefore writing it in italic the other changes are minor...
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 04:29 PM   #2953
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In most cases I really like the new signage better but I don't like the idea of abandoning white for inner city destinations and therefore writing it in italic the other changes are minor...
Agreed. I also liked the fixed size of rectangular frame for road numbering in current system.
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In most cases I really like the new signage better but I don't like the idea of abandoning white for inner city destinations and therefore writing it in italic the other changes are minor...
I agree with your change on roundabout sign. Destinations IMO should be written above the road-number. We have to wait to final proposal of technical norm. This pictures which I posted are just approximate.

This one:


According to older proposal (2010) there was an ambition to differentiate sign for commune limits (blue border, black text):


...and limits of scattered parts of communes (no border, black text):
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Well, many changes were planned in local destinations signage so that italic in local destinations

Blue table + white italic text = official parts of cities/villages
Examples: Petržalka, Ťahanovce, Štrbské Pleso

White table + black border + black text = local destinations (also unofficial parts of cities)
Examples: Centrum, Sídlisko Juh, Zamagurie, Záhorie, Spiš,...

White table + blue border + black arrows + blue text + blue symbols = local destinations with some transport equipments
Examples: Prístav/Ferry, Železničná stanica/Railway station, Letisko/Airport, P+R Žilina-juh

White table + black border + black arrows + black text + black symbols = local destinations like infocenters, ski-lifts, hotels etc.

White table + black border + black arrows + brown text = commercial destinations

Brown table + white text = touristic destinations (castles, churches etc.)
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 09:59 PM   #2956
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Well, many changes were planned in local destinations signage so that italic in local destinations

Blue table + white italic text = official parts of cities/villages
Examples: Petržalka, Ťahanovce, Štrbské Pleso

White table + black border + black text = local destinations (also unofficial parts of cities)
Examples: Centrum, Sídlisko Juh, Zamagurie, Záhorie, Spiš,...

White table + blue border + black arrows + blue text + blue symbols = local destinations with some transport equipments
Examples: Prístav/Ferry, Železničná stanica/Railway station, Letisko/Airport, P+R Žilina-juh

White table + black border + black arrows + black text + black symbols = local destinations like infocenters, ski-lifts, hotels etc.

White table + black border + black arrows + brown text = commercial destinations

Brown table + white text = touristic destinations (castles, churches etc.)

I think it is way too complicated. E.g. Only Bratislava and Kosice have official boroughs. I'd prefer system not distinguishing whether direction signs point towards borough or unofficial city part. White tables are good enough.
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I'm not sure if I understand slovensky, so I'm gonna ask is D1 and D2 inside the city of Bratislava free of charge? I mean, do I need a vignette?
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Within the city it's free, so you don't need vignette.
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Old February 9th, 2014, 01:19 AM   #2959
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I'm not sure if I understand slovensky, so I'm gonna ask is D1 and D2 inside the city of Bratislava free of charge? I mean, do I need a vignette?
No, the last exits where you can leave the motorway legally are Vajnory on D1 towards Zilina and Lamac towards Brno. I am not really sure about the southern part of D2, but AFAIK Pečňa is the last exit that is not charged. You can drive wherever you want among these.
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If I remember well, it says "platna" or something like that when you enter D2 after H/SK border.
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