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Old January 12th, 2016, 11:26 PM   #3601
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I have a different question about the speed limit around Bratlislava D1 from Zlaté Piesky till the bridge over the Danube where the first 80 limit begins. Is there 90 speed limit or 130 ? Cause the signs, where once was 90 speed limit on the whole section of D1 Bratislava area, are turned around. Any clues ??
A normal country would have defined general speed limits as follows:
- speed limit in built-up area,
- speed limit outside the built-up area,
- speed limit on motorway/expressway.

In Slovakia, we are often trying to make things as much complicated as possible. Therefore we have another category of general speed limit:
- speed limit on motorway within built-up area. And the speed limit is 90 kph.

How do you know that you are on a motorway within a built-up area? Piece of cake: You are passing the city entrance sign on motorway.

Stupid, isn't it? Thank God we have only three motorway entrances:
First: https://goo.gl/maps/CLdDiN5rPpR2
Second: https://goo.gl/maps/Y9wFFjXpu8B2
Third: https://goo.gl/maps/U6BeefQ8m7U2

You only have this: https://goo.gl/maps/XxGjb4qmyPC2

After all this you may ask me, why there is 80 kph speed limit in Sitina Tunnel. The answer is simple: The customer (namely the Slovak Republic) has ordered variable electro-mechanical traffic signs that are multiples of 20, so they cannot display 90 kph. They display 80 kph instead.
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Old January 13th, 2016, 12:27 AM   #3602
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Oh :-( I was happy that the signs are gone and now there is 130 kph speed limit, but I was sceptic that it is the case cause no one once driving that fast.
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Old January 17th, 2016, 04:07 PM   #3603
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Old January 17th, 2016, 09:51 PM   #3604
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After all this you may ask me, why there is 80 kph speed limit in Sitina Tunnel. The answer is simple: The customer (namely the Slovak Republic) has ordered variable electro-mechanical traffic signs that are multiples of 20, so they cannot display 90 kph. They display 80 kph instead.
Why not 100 then? That was really stupid of them not to spend some, I dunno, 500€ for that little detail on each side. What is 3000€ for the motorway construction? Less than just farthings! Never heard anything more stupid than that.
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Old January 17th, 2016, 10:01 PM   #3605
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You haven`t ever seen the motorway tunnels with 80km/h speed limit ?
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Old January 17th, 2016, 10:21 PM   #3606
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In Bulgaria they are all 80 km/h, but they are on solid shields, so I'm not that furious, however, nobody follows the limit. I mean by that the manager is(or was, I hope) pretty stupid. I just wonder why so low speed limit in the whole EU. I guess 100-110 is fine, not 80-90
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Old January 18th, 2016, 01:57 AM   #3607
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Because safety first and the difference between 80 and 100 speed limit doesn't really save that much time in a 2 km tunel.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 12:50 PM   #3608
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I mean all tunnels, cause e.g. Bulgaria has 80 on the main non motorway road, and I see nothing that dangerous in tunnels(unless a rat comes across),especially if they are straight. That's why.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 02:20 PM   #3609
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Sitina is inside city and AADT is cca 70000, so 80kmh is OK
other 2+2 tunnels outside cities (Borik, Sibenik) has 100kmh
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Old January 24th, 2016, 10:32 PM   #3610
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During the next week Ministry of Transportation will probably announce official winner of second PPP project in history of SK, the freeway bypass of Bratislava D4 + southern expressway R7, total 55 km

candidates:

Cintra (ESP) - 56,72 mil € / year for 30 years, construction time 4,25 years
Vinci (FRA) - 69,01 mil € / year for 30 years, construction time 3,5 years
Hochtief (AUT) - 76,78 mil € / year for 30 years, construction time 4 year
Strabag (AUT) - 91,04 mil € / year for 30 years, construction time 4,75 years

MoT estimation of year fee was at 135 - 151 mil. €
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Old January 25th, 2016, 12:37 AM   #3611
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What are conditions for choosing of the best offer/bid?
100% price or construction period is also taken under consideration?
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Old January 25th, 2016, 04:11 PM   #3612
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MoT estimation of year fee was at 135 - 151 mil. €
The € 135 million figure would come down to € 4 billion for 55 kilometers of motorway. That's really expensive, even if you take the financing cost into account (which today is pretty low given the nearly free lending of money).

This PPP doesn't include the D4 north of Bratislava, right? Just the eastern bypass?
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Old January 25th, 2016, 04:53 PM   #3613
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The € 135 million figure would come down to € 4 billion for 55 kilometers of motorway. That's really expensive, even if you take the financing cost into account (which today is pretty low given the nearly free lending of money).

This PPP doesn't include the D4 north of Bratislava, right? Just the eastern bypass?
Don´t get fooled, MoT substantially changed the width and also designed speeds. so price could drop. Originally there were some 3+3 sections and 2+2 sections with reserve and designed speed @ 130 km/h, now whole project should have 2+2 with reservation to 3+3 and 100-120 km/h. In the price are included these sections:

D4 Jarovce – Ivanka North 22,59007 km
D4 Ivanka North – Rača 4,400 km
R7 Bratislava I/C Prievoz – Ketelec 6,318 km
R7 Ketelec – Dunajská Lužná 8,425 km
R7 Dunajská Lužná – Holice 17,380 km

Proposed 10 km tunnel "Karpaty" from Rača to Stupava+future Austrian S8 is not included. I personally think that best help for Bratislava´s transport would be short innercity tunnel or kind of expressway from Bajkalská/Jarošova street to somewhere around Patrónka, "Northern Tangent", because city is cut to two halves by Carpathians range perpendicullary to Danube river. On the southern side are 3 capacity routes (2 streets Einsteinova, Dostojevského+Rázusova & 1 motorway D1) vs. northern side with only 1 street with 2+2 = Šancová).
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Old January 26th, 2016, 12:34 AM   #3614
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Some picture to show planned path for D4 and R7

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Old January 26th, 2016, 10:55 AM   #3615
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What are conditions for choosing of the best offer/bid?
100% price or construction period is also taken under consideration?
The price is main criterion, AFAIK the construction time has only 5% weigth on decision process.
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Old January 31st, 2016, 04:38 PM   #3616
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The € 135 million figure would come down to € 4 billion for 55 kilometers of motorway. That's really expensive, even if you take the financing cost into account (which today is pretty low given the nearly free lending of money).

This PPP doesn't include the D4 north of Bratislava, right? Just the eastern bypass?
It would be indeed expensive. Yet approximately 4 billion is the price tag of already built PPP project which contains 55 km of expressway R1 which was build in very poor standard (22.5 m width). Everything is possible in Slovakia.
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Old February 1st, 2016, 01:36 PM   #3617
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Old February 2nd, 2016, 06:01 PM   #3619
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Absolutely amazing view!!!

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