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Old November 28th, 2016, 06:53 PM   #3861
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How looked the subsidizing scheme in Netherlands?
Incentives in the Netherlands are mainly geared to company cars, as they account for two-thirds of the new car sales.

If you drive a company car (paid for by your employer) you pay a tax rate. The tax rate is a percentage of the pre-tax value of the car you have to add to your gross income, so you pay a higher income tax. The tax rates are currently 4% (fully electric), 15% (<50 grams of CO2/km), 21 and 25% for higher CO2 emissions.

For example a car costing € 30,000 with a 25% tax rate means you have to add € 7,500 to your gross annual income, and you pay the income tax accordingly. For most people, it's a couple hundred euros per month at least.

As the PHEV vehicles had a claimed low CO2 emission, they were eligible for very low tax rates. So sales of those cars skyrocketed. There were some models that only sold significant volumes in the Netherlands, which shows how skewed the market was.

For example, the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV (a large SUV) had a claimed emission of only 42 grams of CO2 per kilometer. They used to have a tax rate of only 7%. However, in reality their CO2 emission (=fuel consumption) was much higher because most people charged them only sporadically or not at all. So the government lost a lot of income while not achieving environmental improvements.

Tax incentives for plug-in hybrid vehicles have been reduced and will be eliminated entirely in 2017, so they pay the same tax rate as other cars. Only battery electric cars (Tesla Model S/X, Nissan Leaf, etc.) remain eligible for the low tax rate of 4%.
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Old November 29th, 2016, 01:32 AM   #3862
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It was announced to be opened in 2016. Are both sections expected to be opened in May or is the 3km section still expected to be opened earlier (2016)?
Both will have same opening date, there's no option to open it separately.
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Old November 29th, 2016, 04:48 PM   #3863
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So, I traveled through Slovakia saturday and monday (to reach Krakow from Hungary and return), and it was really pleasant, roads were very good except inside Banská Bystrica, and I was surprised that on monday morning, even with the snow, most of the time the road was perfectly "clean" !!
But what I liked the most, it's how "relax" most of the slovakians are on the road, no dangerous overtaking, not much overspeeding and you can go through cities and respect the speed limits without being horned or dangerously overtaked like I am so used to it here in Romania... I will certainly come back for another road trip in Slovakia!
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Old November 29th, 2016, 04:55 PM   #3864
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Also I stopped in Likavka and took some shots of the Hubova – Likavka expressway who is under construction...




And from the road...

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Old November 29th, 2016, 06:16 PM   #3865
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But what I liked the most, it's how "relax" most of the slovakians are on the road, no dangerous overtaking, not much overspeeding:
slovak drivers are actually angel compared to romanian drivers :P
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Old November 29th, 2016, 08:39 PM   #3866
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slovak drivers are actually angel compared to romanian drivers :P
The reason was probably the first snow in this season, even the fiercest and reckless drivers rides with respect
Wait for spring or summer and you´ll see the real face.
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Old November 29th, 2016, 10:09 PM   #3867
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Many times I drove by Slovakia and Romania, so I know the mentality of the local drivers. Undoubtedly Slovak riding safer.
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Old November 29th, 2016, 10:26 PM   #3868
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Slovakia, along with Estonia, are the only countries in Eastern Europe to have a fatality rate below the EU average, while Romania has the second highest fatality rate.



To compare, the U.S. has a rate of 109 and Canada has a rate of 58.
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Old November 29th, 2016, 11:22 PM   #3869
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The reason was probably the first snow in this season, even the fiercest and reckless drivers rides with respect
Wait for spring or summer and you´ll see the real face.
But it was exactly the same saturday when I traveled to Poland, and there was absolutly no snow, the snow was there only for my return trip that I made yesterday (and the snow was only on the north of Banská Bystrica, the south was perfectly dry and sunny)...
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Old November 30th, 2016, 03:38 PM   #3870
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Unpopular opinion: it is result of Police work and high fines. Many people hates police and says cops are unfair and just check the speed limits on safe empty roads, but I personally never had problems with them. I don't drive slow, but I have never paid fine and cops never stopped me for anything else, than routine check of car registration documents.
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Old November 30th, 2016, 11:45 PM   #3871
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exactly

I have the same opinion. Many times they are checking the speed limits at ridiculous places, which looks like bullying. But the fact is that due their present the drivers are trying to follow the rules. During the day weekdays you can see many patrols on the main roads.

In the last couple of years the behaviour of the drivers improved a lot, and you rarely see somebody who is acting dangeriously.

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Old December 1st, 2016, 02:11 PM   #3872
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Now they only have to make them stop at pedestrian crossings and get off their phones....cause now it's just ridiculous....
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Чл. 141. На водача на велосипед е забранено:1. да се движи успоредно до друг велосипедист;
3. да се движи в непосредствена близост до пътно превозно средство или да се държи за него;
6. да управлява велосипед по площите, предназначени за движение само на пешеходци. Тази забрана не се отнася за децата велосипедисти.
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Old December 1st, 2016, 05:19 PM   #3873
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They used to stop for me at the pedestrian crossings I do the same.

Mobile phones are different topic in Bratislava, what else you can do in traffic jams?
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Old December 1st, 2016, 06:02 PM   #3874
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I'd say percentage of stops for pedestrians is in the single digits....and general attitude towards them is very poor.
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Чл. 141. На водача на велосипед е забранено:1. да се движи успоредно до друг велосипедист;
3. да се движи в непосредствена близост до пътно превозно средство или да се държи за него;
6. да управлява велосипед по площите, предназначени за движение само на пешеходци. Тази забрана не се отнася за децата велосипедисти.
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Old December 2nd, 2016, 11:00 PM   #3875
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Unpopular opinion: it is result of Police work and high fines. Many people hates police and says cops are unfair and just check the speed limits on safe empty roads, but I personally never had problems with them. I don't drive slow, but I have never paid fine and cops never stopped me for anything else, than routine check of car registration documents.
I live in Poland and I drive in Slovakia quite a bit with Polish plates, never had any problems with the police. They are everywhere, it's true, but they don't make unfair stops. They stopped me only once at night near Zilina for a breath/documents check, and they laughed when I told them that they should stop every Polish car because of the dreadful attitude towards the law in Poland.

It's the same in the Czech Republic. People drive much, much better in CZ/SK than in PL, and it's far less stressful to drive there.
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I live in Poland and I drive in Slovakia quite a bit with Polish plates, never had any problems with the police. They are everywhere, it's true, but they don't make unfair stops. They stopped me only once at night near Zilina for a breath/documents check, and they laughed when I told them that they should stop every Polish car because of the dreadful attitude towards the law in Poland.

It's the same in the Czech Republic. People drive much, much better in CZ/SK than in PL, and it's far less stressful to drive there.
Just drive in Hungary for a while, and you will enjoy PL.
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Old December 3rd, 2016, 04:42 PM   #3877
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Unpopular opinion: it is result of Police work and high fines. Many people hates police and says cops are unfair and just check the speed limits on safe empty roads, but I personally never had problems with them. I don't drive slow, but I have never paid fine and cops never stopped me for anything else, than routine check of car registration documents.
Same here. Fined twice in my life - but I pleaded guilty. And twice for regular check. Always talked to me very professionally and always wished me a safe journey.

I have never been pulled over by police in foreign country.

Btw. what is the level of English among Slovak Police?
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Old December 3rd, 2016, 04:46 PM   #3878
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I'd say percentage of stops for pedestrians is in the single digits....and general attitude towards them is very poor.
Yeah, Bratislava has a good trend - it seems that more and more people give way to pedestrians at crossings. But it only work on 1+1 roads. Once there is 2+2 or 2+1 road, you have to do a false step to persuade them to stop. Otherwise you are to wait there eternally.

The rest of Slovakia is little worse. Even pedestrians are more used to wait.
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Old December 5th, 2016, 02:35 PM   #3879
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Btw. what is the level of English among Slovak Police?
Nine out of ten police officers in Slovakia speak no English at all, the tenth one speaks a little bit of English. Some speak a bit of German, but no more than English...

But I have almost always been treated correctly by the police after being stopped. And even if you get a fine it is a reasonable amount, not like my home country, the Netherlands. Fines there are ridiculously high. For instance, using your mobile phone while driving gets you a fine of about 40 euros, in Slovakia and in Germany, but in the Netherlands it will cost you 230 euros...
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Uhm, but the minimal wage in Slovakia is barely 380 eur a month (2 eur/hour).
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