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Old January 8th, 2008, 02:37 AM   #61
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wow there really building alot more highways over there!
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Old January 9th, 2008, 10:41 PM   #62
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D3 Skalité - border SR/PR (Zwardoń)

This section is 3.16 km long and it's being built in half profile. There will be 4 bridges together 1.42 km long. The highest pillars will be 32 metres tall. Some 150 m of this future motorway is alredy in use as border crossing.

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As you can see at this picture, whole this section (just like almost whole this future motorway) is built on bridges, embankments and cuts. There will be also 4 tunnels:
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Old January 9th, 2008, 11:26 PM   #63
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It seems, that completion date for that section has moved a bit into the future.
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Old January 10th, 2008, 12:33 AM   #64
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Dial'nica D18
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Old January 10th, 2008, 01:08 AM   #65
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It seems, that completion date for that section has moved a bit into the future.
As ussual. All Slovak motorways should have been finnished in 1990 according to original plans.

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Dial'nica D18
It was named after its parallel road.
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Old January 10th, 2008, 01:41 AM   #66
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When was the "original" plan made? Our plan for M0 is about 70years old
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Old January 10th, 2008, 03:55 PM   #67
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When was the "original" plan made? Our plan for M0 is about 70years old
There were many "original plans" First ideas about highway connecting whole Czechoslovakia appeard in 1935, but first sections in Slovakia were opened in 1970's.

Here are maps of the "evolution" of the plans, as you can see there was strong Pragocentrism and plans for Slovakia were much smaller than for Czech republic:

1935 - 1938


1938 (Munich Agreement)



Source: http://www.ndsas.sk/index/index.php?ids=427
1939 – 1945 (WW2)


1945 - 1950 (After communists gained power)


1960 - 1980


1985 - 1989


1990 – 1993 (up to dissolution of ČSFR)


Source: http://www.ndsas.sk/index/index.php?ids=427
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Old January 12th, 2008, 05:48 AM   #68
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Dear Slovakia,
It would be greatly appreciated if you could build a proper highway from Chyzne (Trstena) to Sahy through Banska Bysrtica as it would make getting to the world's best gulasz a little easier. Not that yours is bad though, a good contender for second best.
Best regards and thanks.
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Old January 12th, 2008, 01:14 PM   #69
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Dear Slovakia,
It would be greatly appreciated if you could build a proper highway from Chyzne (Trstena) to Sahy through Banska Bysrtica as it would make getting to the world's best gulasz a little easier. Not that yours is bad though, a good contender for second best.
Best regards and thanks.
Dear Sagaris,
It would be great if Poland and Hungary will pay that 20 km long tunnel under Nízke Tatry. If not, you will have to wait some time till major East-West routes will be finnished because North-South is not important for us now. Some constructions will be only on the very Northern part of R3 (Trstená - Dolný Kubín), but only as bypasses and in half-profile.

Neither Poland, nor Hungary have to built expressway in such terrain:
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Old January 12th, 2008, 01:16 PM   #70
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And I think the closest to that location will be at Stúrovo...
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Old January 12th, 2008, 01:36 PM   #71
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And I think the closest to that location will be at Stúrovo...
You have to look at it from more global point of view. The shortest connection is definitelly Pl border/Trstená - Banská Bystrica - Šahy/H border. On present roads it's 206 km. Pl border/Trstená - Banská Bystrica - Žiar nad Hronom - Štúrovo is on present roads is 261 km. There is possible also another varian via Martin, (so not Banská Bystrica) to Štúrovo - that is 256 km on present roads. The last possible variant is also via Martin, but then Hričovské Podhradie - Zvolen - Šahy what is 228 km. I've counted only the distance between borders.

IMO the best variant is the first Pl border/Trstená - Banská Bystrica - Šahy/H border, because it's the shortest one and the only peage with R1 is Banská Bystrica - Zvolen, what is already prepared for extension on 2x3 lanes what wouldn't be possible on other sections of R1 without enormous investitions. The main problem is that mantioned tunnel. However, the rest of the terrain is not so complicated in comparision with Martin variant.

We should definitely build at least Trstená - Dolný Kubín in half profile. Between Banská Bystrica and Zvolen is already expressway and the rest: Zvolen - Šahy is relatively good road where only some bypasses are necessary.
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Old January 12th, 2008, 06:41 PM   #72
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Dear Sagaris,
It would be great if Poland and Hungary will pay that 20 km long tunnel under Nízke Tatry. If not, you will have to wait some time till major East-West routes will be finnished because North-South is not important for us now.
I agree with you. It doesn't matter much to Slovakia, so either Poland and Hungary provide the money needed, or they will have to wait for it. In Slovenia we have an even more extreme example (although far cheaper): Croatia and Italy want a motorway between Rijeka and Trieste, but it's totally unimportant to Slovenia, so I say give us money and you'll get it.
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Old January 12th, 2008, 06:44 PM   #73
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Yeah, but i think international road integration would be better. Especially in this time and age of vanishing boundaries and borders.
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Old January 12th, 2008, 06:50 PM   #74
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I agree with you. It doesn't matter much to Slovakia, so either Poland and Hungary provide the money needed, or they will have to wait for it. In Slovenia we have an even more extreme example (although far cheaper): Croatia and Italy want a motorway between Rijeka and Trieste, but it's totally unimportant to Slovenia, so I say give us money and you'll get it.
Yes, it's simlar. I wouldn't say R3 is totally unimportant for Slovakia, but it's main importance is foreign traffic and majority of that traffic is from Polland and Hungary. Though there are some constructions, overwhelming majority must wait till much more important motorways and expresways will be built.
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^ That's the thing: we have more important (to us) motorways to build. As you said, Slovakia will eventually build it, but it could last really long, if Poland and Hungary don't donate anything. OTOH, in the Slovenian case, if only Slovenia's interests would be taken into account, we'd NEVER get a motorway between Rijeka and Trieste, b/c there are just villages in Slovenia. You don't build motorway to connect villages.
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Old January 12th, 2008, 07:10 PM   #76
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Yeah, but i think international road integration would be better. Especially in this time and age of vanishing boundaries and borders.
Even Poland and Hungary are not building their highways in direction to Slovakia fast. AFAIK the biggest activity is on Polish S69, but it's comparable to the activity on Slovak D3. But, there is only a little activity on expressways S7 from Kraków and S19 from Rzeszow to Slovak border. The same in Hungary - M2 is only halfprofile and it ends far from our border, construction of M30 to Slovak border is also very far future and the only existing expressway between Slovakia and Hungary M15 is only halfprofile. For example very important road from Bratislava to Nagykanisza which would connect Bratislava directly with Slovenia and Croatia is not even in early proposal state we even don't know if it will be motorway, expressway or just some kind of carriageway. And both those countries are constructing their motorway network in much easier natural conditions than Slovakia. Only the conditions on Polish S69, S19 and S7 are comparable to Slovak, but still easier.

Fact is that East-West traffic is much higher and more important than North-South.
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Wait a minute: did you say 20-km tunnel?!
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Old January 12th, 2008, 07:25 PM   #78
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Wait a minute: did you say 20-km tunnel?!
Yes. OK, it was a bit aggrandized, but if he wants really smooth drive, than such tunnel would be needed. Actually it of course won't be build as long, but some 15 km is very realistic number. Just look at Google maps and find the shortest possible connection of Banská Bystrica and Ružomberok. It must underpass the second highest mountains in Slovakia and the biggest National park, where only tunnel is possible.
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I know, that looks quite impassable. Still, 15 km is a long tunnel.
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I know, that looks quite impassable. Still, 15 km is a long tunnel.
And probably the shortest possible. That's also the reason why it won't be built soon. BTW, there is already planned one 9 or 10 km long tunnel on motorway D4 in Bratislava.
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