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Old December 21st, 2010, 06:52 PM   #1941
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Do I have to buy a vignette to enter the only really short part of D4?
Yes. You can use that road - http://goo.gl/maps/EXd4
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Old December 21st, 2010, 06:57 PM   #1942
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Actualisated map. I have forgotten that bypasses of Horná Štubňa and Trstená were opened last month.
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 08:03 AM   #1943
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Thanks for the info seem.
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 11:54 AM   #1944
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Actualisated map. I have forgotten that bypasses of Horná Štubňa and Trstená were opened last month.
I'm seeing you forgot the R1 from D4 just East of Bratislava to R1 between Trnava and Nitra, and R9 in Northeastern Slovakia, which would run as follows: R4 between Prešov and Giraltovce-Vranov nad Topl'ou-Humenné-Snina. I saw those listed somewhere in Internet...
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 07:26 PM   #1945
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I'm seeing you forgot the R1 from D4 just East of Bratislava to R1 between Trnava and Nitra, and R9 in Northeastern Slovakia, which would run as follows: R4 between Prešov and Giraltovce-Vranov nad Topl'ou-Humenné-Snina. I saw those listed somewhere in Internet...
Proposed western alignment of R1 Most pri Bratislave (D4) - Hrubý Šúr - Sládkovičovo - Sereď (R1) does not have considered an accurate roadline. The technical study is being elaborated currently.

R9 is kinda after elections and also does not have considered an accurate roadline.
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 07:49 PM   #1946
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How is it going now with the R1 from Nitra to Žiar nad Hronom? Last time I was driving there the motorway ended at Nitra when I was driving from Bratislava via Trnava to Nitra. But are they building that part now?
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 10:24 PM   #1947
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How is it going now with the R1 from Nitra to Žiar nad Hronom? Last time I was driving there the motorway ended at Nitra when I was driving from Bratislava via Trnava to Nitra. But are they building that part now?
Entire R1 from Trnava to Banská Bystrica is either built or U/C. Section close to Žiar nad Hronom should be finsihed probably somtimes in January 2011 and section east of Nitra in Summer 2011.
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Old December 27th, 2010, 10:14 PM   #1948
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I like this bridge (D1 junction) near Prešov -







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Old December 27th, 2010, 11:40 PM   #1949
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R1 between BB and Ruzomberok is going to be 2+2?
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Old December 27th, 2010, 11:53 PM   #1950
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R1 between BB and Ruzomberok is going to be 2+2?
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Old December 28th, 2010, 12:04 AM   #1951
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Why do you guys need a 2+2 highway between BB and Ruzomberok? I've driven that way manytimes and it didn't seem like being overcrowded. Moreover, buliding such monsters over there would be a crime... the landscape is priceless. "Kozi Chrbat tunel" is driving me crazy..
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Old December 28th, 2010, 12:11 AM   #1952
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Why do you guys need a 2+2 highway between BB and Ruzomberok? I've driven that way manytimes and it didn't seem like being overcrowded. Moreover, buliding such monsters over there would be a crime... the landscape is priceless. "Kozi Chrbat tunel" is driving me crazy..
Of course we don't need it now. It is just about politics. I think we had a chat about it here a few weeks ago.
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Old December 28th, 2010, 12:51 AM   #1953
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Of course we don't need it now. It is just about politics. I think we had a chat about it here a few weeks ago.
You need it because it happened to me twice that I wanted to return home from Jasna (Jasna - Ruzomberok - BB - Budapest - Romania) but after I drove some km between Ruzomberok and BB a police officer stopped me and said that there is some dog sleights competition in Donovaly and the road is closed so I had to go back to Ruzomberok and take an alternate route via Martin. And it happened twice (in 2007 and 2010)!!!

Perhaps I just had bad luck... twice!
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Old December 28th, 2010, 09:52 AM   #1954
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You need it because it happened to me twice that I wanted to return home from Jasna (Jasna - Ruzomberok - BB - Budapest - Romania) but after I drove some km between Ruzomberok and BB a police officer stopped me and said that there is some dog sleights competition in Donovaly and the road is closed so I had to go back to Ruzomberok and take an alternate route via Martin. And it happened twice (in 2007 and 2010)!!!

Perhaps I just had bad luck... twice!
That's ok. What is not ok is when they close that road because of snow. Traffic is not huge at all. NDS said that this section can be alternative of D1 from Žilina but it is not true at all because traffic is not just between Bratislava and Košice so there willl be still problem with Strečno "pass" anyway.

Some section of Donovaly road look like this, which is enough I think -





Btw, have you ever heard about road II/520 Nová Bystrica - Oravská Lesná. It is about 2 years old and it is really successful shorcut for people in this region.

It used to be 60 km long journey for these people from Nová Bystrica to Oravská Lesná - http://goo.gl/maps/GOrl. Nowadays it is just 9 km long - http://goo.gl/maps/rfiT.

There are really nice views from road, but I have never been there.


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Old December 28th, 2010, 10:29 AM   #1955
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I like this bridge (D1 junction) near Prešov -

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Old December 28th, 2010, 11:34 AM   #1956
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Why do you guys need a 2+2 highway between BB and Ruzomberok? I've driven that way manytimes and it didn't seem like being overcrowded. Moreover, buliding such monsters over there would be a crime... the landscape is priceless. "Kozi Chrbat tunel" is driving me crazy..
Here is video of the planned section: http://www.bystrica24.sk/news.php?extend.77880 As you can see it pretty much respects the landscape, but cost of such section in Alpine terrain and its environmental impact would be still enormous.

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You need it because it happened to me twice that I wanted to return home from Jasna (Jasna - Ruzomberok - BB - Budapest - Romania) but after I drove some km between Ruzomberok and BB a police officer stopped me and said that there is some dog sleights competition in Donovaly and the road is closed so I had to go back to Ruzomberok and take an alternate route via Martin. And it happened twice (in 2007 and 2010)!!!

Perhaps I just had bad luck... twice!
Road closure once a year due to a competition can hardly be qualified as a reason to spend billions to build parallel road. As seem said, problem is rather snow which causes traffic closures. But new road would suffer from snow too. There are of course also alternative mountain passes but their usage usually results into detour.

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Of course we don't need it now. It is just about politics. I think we had a chat about it here a few weeks ago.
Last minister of transportation was from Bansk8 Bystrica so he stated planning this section. Curren minister used it as an argument to negotiate discount from PPP consesionaire of D1 near Žilina. But actual construction of this road won't start anytime soon. There's no money and for now it's not needed.
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Old December 28th, 2010, 01:23 PM   #1957
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That's ok. What is not ok is when they close that road because of snow. Traffic is not huge at all. NDS said that this section can be alternative of D1 from Žilina but it is not true at all because traffic is not just between Bratislava and Košice so there willl be still problem with Strečno "pass" anyway.

Some section of Donovaly road look like this, which is enough I think -
I was joking when I said that you need to build R1 BB - Ruzomberok just because I had bad luck... twice. The road is quite ok now (2+1 on some sections), but it's quite crowded around Donovaly ski resort and the traffic was very slow when it snowed (although there wasn't more than 5 cm of snow).

On my journey back home I took this route.
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I was joking when I said that you need to build R1 BB - Ruzomberok just because I had bad luck... twice. The road is quite ok now (2+1 on some sections), but it's quite crowded around Donovaly ski resort and the traffic was very slow when it snowed (although there wasn't more than 5 cm of snow).

On my journey back home I took this route.
Road from Martin to Kremnica is awful. One of the worst roads in Slovakia. Especially the section Horná Štubňa - Kremnica is really bad. Anyway, I thought it is more km than 600 km from Arad.

Btw, Donovaly mountain pass is closed for lorries again. Road I/18 Martin - Žilina called Strečno is overcrowded. One of our friends just came to stay for a night because of it.
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Road from Martin to Kremnica is awful. One of the worst roads in Slovakia. Especially the section Horná Štubňa - Kremnica is really bad. Anyway, I thought it is more km than 600 km from Arad.

Btw, Donovaly mountain pass is closed for lorries again. Road I/18 Martin - Žilina called Strečno is overcrowded. One of our friends just came to stay for a night because of it.
As far as I remember it was quite bad because it's made of concrete (not paved with asphalt) and there were few potholes.
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Old December 28th, 2010, 01:57 PM   #1960
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As far as I remember it was quite bad because it's made of concrete (not paved with asphalt) and there were few potholes.
Section Martin - Turčianske teplice is not made up of concrete, but concrete blocks. Section Horná Štubňa - Kremnica is made up of asphalt but it is in really bad condition. Section Kremnica - x R1 is quite ok and just with by-passes.

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Slovak article - http://trnava.sme.sk/c/5699299/opity...-bielizni.html

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