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Old October 31st, 2009, 02:39 PM   #2121
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Old border crossing of Syria and Jordan

Syrian border at Daraa
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Entrance to the Jordanian border at Ramtha, actual customs post is few hundred meters further
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Old October 31st, 2009, 03:06 PM   #2122
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And to think not so long ago you would be shot for trying to pass those borders.
Borders of the Warsaw Pact yes, but the Slovenian (Yugoslav) border was always open. Yugoslavs could've crossed the border as often as we wanted and didn't need visas for Western Europe.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 05:57 PM   #2123
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Borders of the Warsaw Pact yes, but the Slovenian (Yugoslav) border was always open. Yugoslavs could've crossed the border as often as we wanted and didn't need visas for Western Europe.
we did. i remember when my parents traveled to Spain in 1989, they even had to have transit visa for France. of course, not whole Europe was involved into visa regime
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Old October 31st, 2009, 06:29 PM   #2124
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Hm, I thought we didn't need visas for them. But we didn't need them for Italy and Austria, which we border(ed). I've heard we needed visa for Greece.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 06:43 PM   #2125
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I think that we needed visa for Spain and Greece, but not or France for sure.
Also with Spain it was process sometimes we needed visa, sometimes not.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 06:52 PM   #2126
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we did. i remember when my parents traveled to Spain in 1989, they even had to have transit visa for France. of course, not whole Europe was involved into visa regime
Strange I traveled to France and Spain on different occasions (with Yu passport) in the 80’s and never need a visa. X-Yu needed a visa to Spain while Franco was alive but not after.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 07:20 PM   #2127
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I remember when I went to Berlin in 1987 that I would be the only one in our bus not to have difficulties crossing the DDR-border when I should use my YU-passport. But at the end, I travelled with my Dutch passport.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 07:24 PM   #2128
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France had quite strong visa regime, i don't know Alien how you managed to travel without visa. i don't remember if they needed visas for Spain.
Verso, that's right that for I, A and D we didn't have to have visas (probably for more countries too)
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Old October 31st, 2009, 07:33 PM   #2129
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i have just checked with my dad. they had to have transit visa for France, but Spain didn't require visa at all. it was in year 1988 or 1989.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 07:34 PM   #2130
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As a Dutchmen, you only need a visa in a few European countries;

* Belarus
* Russia
* Turkey
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Old October 31st, 2009, 07:52 PM   #2131
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for Ukraine not?
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No, they abolished visa for Ukraine in 2008 I believe.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 07:58 PM   #2133
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Ok you get Turkish visa at the border so it is more or less a formality. Some EU countries dont pay the feefor the turkish visalike Italy or Czech republic. Italians can go to Turkey with just the ID card.

Also Moldova abolished the visa foe EU citizens.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 09:17 PM   #2134
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No, they abolished visa for Ukraine in 2008 I believe.
interesting. for us it is easier to get russian visa than ukrainian, ukrainan is more expensive and they are checking more things than Russians. actually, if you are coming to Moscow from Zagreb with direct flight, you even don't need visa if you are not leaving Moscow.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 10:07 PM   #2135
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YU passports needed visas for Greece since 1982, and for France since 1984. Other Western European countries were visa-free until late 80s. Actually, last country that required visa for YU was Germany, since early 1994.

Can't wait New year....
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Ok you get Turkish visa at the border so it is more or less a formality. Some EU countries dont pay the feefor the turkish visalike Italy or Czech republic. Italians can go to Turkey with just the ID card.

Also Moldova abolished the visa foe EU citizens.
AFAIK Dutch people can also go to Turkey with an ID card, but they still need to buy the visa at the airport.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 10:43 PM   #2137
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YU passports needed visas for Greece since 1982, and for France since 1984. Other Western European countries were visa-free until late 80s. Actually, last country that required visa for YU was Germany, since early 1994.

Can't wait New year....
I think Italy was the last one, in 1997, just before entering Schengen. I still remember serbs coming to Italy without visa till that year.

Well good news they are gonig to abolish you visa, but this free visa travelling regards only for Schengen countries or also UK and Ireland? I guess that Romania, Bulgaria and Cyprus will lift visa too.
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I think Italy was the last one, in 1997, just before entering Schengen. I still remember serbs coming to Italy without visa till that year.

Well good news they are gonig to abolish you visa, but this free visa travelling regards only for Schengen countries or also UK and Ireland? I guess that Romania, Bulgaria and Cyprus will lift visa too.
Don't schengen visas count for the UK & Ireland? I'm underthe impression that for visa issues (but not passport control), that Uk and Ireland coem under schengen.
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UK and Ireland signed only some parts of the Schengen agreement, mainly in the police cooperation and exchange of data.They dont recognize the Schengen visa.
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Old November 1st, 2009, 08:12 AM   #2140
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France had quite strong visa regime, i don't know Alien how you managed to travel without visa. i don't remember if they needed visas for Spain.
Verso, that's right that for I, A and D we didn't have to have visas (probably for more countries too)
I travel through France in 80,81,82,83(on 7 occasions) and had no problem. I checked the stamps on the old passport.
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