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Old December 20th, 2009, 08:37 PM   #2461
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I wonder why Lithuania pokes into Belarus here...

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There are two versions about this appendix. First (not so trusted) that when Soviets discussed new borders in 1940 there was Stalin's pipe on the map and nobody dared to move it so they drawed the border around it. Another version (more realistic) is that biggest town Dieveniškės had quite active lithuanian minority and they convinced top leaders in Moscow to give this territory to Lithuanian SSR, since Belarus was not influential in that region and could not oppose to this decision. Some say that this territory was given to mark Lithunia's entry to USSR in 1940.

There were many problems in that region when LT-BY border was marked in 1991 and later reinforced to meet Schengen requirements. Sometimes border fence crossed people's yards, houses or other buildings, famillies were separated etc.

Now every year biggest open air festival is organised there called Be Together. At first it had sort of a goal to draw attention to human rights situation in Belarus.
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Old December 20th, 2009, 08:48 PM   #2462
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there was Stalin's pipe on the map and nobody dared to move it so they drawed the border around it.
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Old December 20th, 2009, 11:57 PM   #2463
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Why the UK and Ireland don't have a common visa policy is beyond me - but the current system does work.
The current system doesn't work for non EU people requiring visas who are resident with work permits in border areas of either part of Ireland. Such people can get into major problems by going to a neighbouring town for shopping or to a disco, but who have no convenient way of getting a visa to allow them do this.
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Old December 21st, 2009, 12:12 AM   #2464
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You had to present an ID (not necessarily a passport), it wasn't just a walk-across type of a thing
It's been years since I went from Slovakia to Poland, but if I remember correctly I was asked for a passport (in 1999).
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Old December 21st, 2009, 12:43 AM   #2465
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There are two versions about this appendix. First (not so trusted) that when Soviets discussed new borders in 1940 there was Stalin's pipe on the map and nobody dared to move it so they drawed the border around it.
This sounds similar to the theory that there are kinks in straight sections of the Trans-Siberian due to his fingers being over the edge of the ruler when he drew the route.
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Old December 21st, 2009, 03:40 AM   #2466
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Like the one on the Piter-Moscow about Tsar's finger.
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Old December 21st, 2009, 12:44 PM   #2467
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Is it true that the ring line of the Moscow Metro came into being because Stalin placed his coffee cup on the map, which left a round, brown rim on the paper?
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Old December 21st, 2009, 03:49 PM   #2468
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Is it true that the ring line of the Moscow Metro came into being because Stalin placed his coffee cup on the map, which left a round, brown rim on the paper?
they say something similar for railroad Moscow - St. Petersburg that emperor Nikolay took a ruler, connected those 2 cities with straight line and that was the route of railroad
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Old December 21st, 2009, 05:17 PM   #2469
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they say something similar for railroad Moscow - St. Petersburg that emperor Nikolay took a ruler, connected those 2 cities with straight line and that was the route of railroad
And there is one deviation where his finger was.

edit: now I see it's already been told.
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Old December 21st, 2009, 06:31 PM   #2470
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Who makes up those crazy ideas??
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Old December 21st, 2009, 07:28 PM   #2471
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Old December 21st, 2009, 10:20 PM   #2472
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It's been years since I went from Slovakia to Poland, but if I remember correctly I was asked for a passport (in 1999).
Yes that changed with Poland's and Slovakia's entry into EU in 2004.
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Old December 22nd, 2009, 12:53 AM   #2473
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Yes that changed with Poland's and Slovakia's entry into EU in 2004.
I crossed in 2006 and needed a passport, they probably would have been fine with any form of ID though, especially from neighbouring countries.
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Old December 22nd, 2009, 02:12 AM   #2474
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Well, as soon as they became member countries, I always showed the id and never had problems.
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Old December 22nd, 2009, 02:57 AM   #2475
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On this bridge there was a border between Poland and Germany in 1921-1945. View from west to east.

Former border of Germany and Poland (1921-1945) - along shade line (Germany (right), Poland (left),

Former border of Germany and Poland (1921-1945) - along sandy road (Germany left, Poland right).

Former border between Poland and Germany (HOLY GERMAN EMPIRE) [1257-1772] (road from Lubniewice to Osiecko). Wielkopolska / Ziemia Lubuska (from 1257 in Germany) historical provinces border. View from Ziemia Lubuska side to Wielkopolska side. Today border between Sulęcin and Międzyrzecz counties.

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Old December 22nd, 2009, 09:25 PM   #2476
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Two years!
21 December 2007 - states of Central and East Europe approached to Schengen zone.
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Old December 22nd, 2009, 10:15 PM   #2477
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Plus Malta!
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 12:21 AM   #2478
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I was in Oslo for past three days. Finally, traveling without visas. Passport control officers were very confused, because they haven't got information about no-visa traveling for Serbia, Montenegro and Macedonia. So, they needed quick Internet education. Very funny situation.
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 01:42 AM   #2479
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I was in Oslo for past three days. Finally, traveling without visas. Passport control officers were very confused, because they haven't got information about no-visa traveling for Serbia, Montenegro and Macedonia. So, they needed quick Internet education. Very funny situation.
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Year, two years -they will learn.
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 02:15 AM   #2480
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Congratulations Djurizmo for you country and MK and MNE being finally on the white Schengen list. You deserved it!
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