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Old January 27th, 2008, 08:00 PM   #241
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Ofcourse you can.

I hate the current road markings. The ones listed above are official, but most road authorities are just goofing around with the rules, you can see all kinds of markings these days.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 08:48 PM   #242
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I do prefer double lining on 80/100 km roads to the old single white line.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 09:04 PM   #243
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Yeah, but the dotted lines looks very restless, i sometimes ask what this does to epileptic people. You know, the whole stroboscopic effect, to make people speed less. (though this concept doesn't work out at all).
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Old January 27th, 2008, 10:12 PM   #244
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Thanks for the explanation! That's very interesting, I've never seen such markings elsewhere.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 11:34 PM   #245
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So that's the solution für the funny road markings that appeared all over the Netherlands. And I drove 80 all the time...
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Old January 28th, 2008, 08:28 AM   #246
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So that's the solution für the funny road markings that appeared all over the Netherlands. And I drove 80 all the time...
Yes, it´s not understandable for foreigners, because no other country uses these kind of road markings. Talking about Europe in the 21st century

Especially those 60-km/h markings are popping out all over the place on roads that used to have a 80 limit. It pisses people off, because they are usually on straight low-traffic roads, the kind of roads that would have a 100 limit in Germany.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 08:33 AM   #247
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So that's the solution für the funny road markings that appeared all over the Netherlands. And I drove 80 all the time...
Don't mind the markings. Speed limits are still depending on signs, not on markings. So 80 km/h on rural roads and (only) 100km/h if you passed this sign:


We got crazy here with those markings. Especially the markings for 60-zones are a pain in the ass. On most of these roads you barely see bicycles, and if you see them they feel free to use the room they want. During fog these roads are extremely dangerous, because people are used to follow the markings. On usual roads (with 80km/h limit) they make the road look so tiny, it just feels so frustrating to drive. Especially with a big vehicle (truck/bus).
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Old January 28th, 2008, 09:04 AM   #248
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Yes, some major roads have only 2,75m between the road markings. Sometimes you see a truck with the road markings from tire to tire with no space leftover.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 03:15 PM   #249
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Old January 28th, 2008, 03:54 PM   #250
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^ That's some strange borderless Europe, when we still have cops at our borders or right behind them. I think control at the Schengen's outer border is thorough enough. Why would someone be suspicious just because of driving an old van? Those people can now get checked several times instead of once, like before. Besides, it's not like the old Schengen countries are without crime. Reminds me of police check points WITHIN Russia:


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Old January 28th, 2008, 07:52 PM   #251
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We have random checks here too, but they are very rare and most people can drive between Latvia and Estonia without control.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 07:55 PM   #252
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^ Probably just Germany and Austria (don't know for Italy) still "guard" their borders with Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary and Slovenia.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 08:10 PM   #253
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Eeee, no.... random checking is also at other Schengen former-borders(maybe not so common, but it is still an ordinary routine)
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Old January 28th, 2008, 08:22 PM   #254
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Yeah, the German highway patrol often has checks on the A30 between Osnabrück and Hengelo near the Dutch border. They usually pick out vans and old cars with non-EU plates, like Ukrainian and former Yugoslavian countries.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 10:29 PM   #255
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I didn't know that. But just up to 50 km away from border, I suppose?
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Old January 29th, 2008, 05:46 AM   #256
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Minorly off-topic, when I was last in Germany, I kept an eye peeled for the former border crossing areas between the old West Germany and the old East Germany.

The two places I was convinced were so (one of which was a road-side museum) had an asphalted area that widened substantially on both sides of the road.

Is there a webpage that is dedicated to such a hobby?
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Old January 29th, 2008, 06:02 AM   #257
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You can always do a Google search for one. Anyways, you should be able to easily follow the old border on the Google-Earth aerial images website - it was a broad mowed strip of land that snaked through the countryside (now minus the fences, mines and guard towers). I have always thought that it would make a neat cross-country public recreational trail.



The old border checkpoints are also readily visible. Some on major autobahns are now service plazas.

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Old January 29th, 2008, 09:38 AM   #258
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Also, the old border is still de border between the different states. (Bundesländer). Those haven't changed.
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Old January 29th, 2008, 11:12 AM   #259
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Also, the old border is still de border between the different states. (Bundesländer). Those haven't changed.
so if we follow certain bundesländer border, that is actually former GER/GDR border?
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Yep
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