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Old January 8th, 2010, 05:37 PM   #2601
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Same, in Sweden in my car there was no way to turn the light off at all! It was on both in the on and off setting.
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Old January 8th, 2010, 05:52 PM   #2602
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The border crossing is not at the tunnel or the toll plaza, but on the bridge a few hundred meters west of the cable stayed section.
Indeed, but that's why I wrote "a sort of". I couldn't take shots there. Anyway, thank you.

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You meant Norway-Finnland?
Oops, sorry... Fixed now. Thanks for the heads-up.

Btw, is there any country in Europe where using the headlights on the main roads isn't mandatory ?
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Old January 8th, 2010, 05:52 PM   #2603
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Probably in most of them isn't mandatory.

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on all cars that are sold as new in Denmark, the car starts with headlights on. It's legally required in Denmark.
With a lot of new cars this is also the case in Slovenia. But you can always turn them off.
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Old January 8th, 2010, 05:59 PM   #2604
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in that case there shouldn't be many of those speed limit signs at tables with general speed limits (because often those speed limits are the same). not to mention signs "end of motorway" and after 100 m "beginning of motorway" just because in those 100 m is border (lots of those at D-NL border) - this is even stupid to me
I think that the general speed limits should be shown at the beginning of an area with that particular speed limit. For example, a 50 sign should be on the same pole as a town limit sign. 80-sign on the same pole as an "end of town"-sign. And 130-sign on the same pole as a motorway sign.

I also do not think that a motorway should end because of some closed border checkpoint. It's still a motorway, no matter what side of the border you're on.
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Old January 8th, 2010, 06:00 PM   #2605
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Btw, is there any country in Europe where using the headlights on the main roads isn't mandatory ?
All countries south of DK AFAIK
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Old January 8th, 2010, 06:04 PM   #2606
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I think that the general speed limits should be shown at the beginning of an area with that particular speed limit. For example, a 50 sign should be on the same pole as a town limit sign. 80-sign on the same pole as an "end of town"-sign. And 130-sign on the same pole as a motorway sign.
don't you find it too expensive?
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Old January 8th, 2010, 06:04 PM   #2607
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All countries south of DK AFAIK
Thanks. But that's not the case with Romania and Hungary for example.
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Old January 8th, 2010, 06:04 PM   #2608
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I think that the general speed limits should be shown at the beginning of an area with that particular speed limit. For example, a 50 sign should be on the same pole as a town limit sign. 80-sign on the same pole as an "end of town"-sign.
That would be stupid and waste of money and resources as we in Europe have general speed limits. When you come into village marked by a sign, it is 50 km/h speed limit, when you are out it is automatically 90.
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Old January 8th, 2010, 06:10 PM   #2609
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During my trip from Dronninglund to Bornholm in October last year, i drove from Malmö to Ystad (that's in Sweden), much of it through small towns, and a little of it on the E65. I saw that some towns have 50 signs within the town limits, and at the beginning of motorways, a 110 sign is posted on the same pole as the motorway sign.
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Old January 8th, 2010, 06:17 PM   #2610
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I honestly don't know why that would be needed. Motorway sign automatically means 130 km/h, town sign automatically means 50 km/h.
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Old January 8th, 2010, 06:25 PM   #2611
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^ Not necessarily:
http://www.europe.org/speedlimits.html
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Old January 8th, 2010, 06:27 PM   #2612
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I do know that all countries uses general speed limits.
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Old January 8th, 2010, 06:31 PM   #2613
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Sweden does in fact not have general speed limits any more. The motorway sign used to automatically inidicate a speed limit of 110, but since the introduction of a new speed limit scheme with 20, 30, 40, 50...., 100, 110 and 120 a change in speed limit needs to always be posted. For intstance, a motorway sign should be accompanied with a speed limit sign, no matter what the limit is.
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Old January 8th, 2010, 06:32 PM   #2614
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The danish motorway limit is wrong. Danish motorway speed limits was raised from 110 to 130 in '04.
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Old January 8th, 2010, 06:40 PM   #2615
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Most people think of border disputes and land swaps (as far as the continental US is concerned) as being ancient history. But this one occured during my lifetime.
France gave some land to Andorra in 2001 too. Greedy Andorrans...

The French municipality of Porta, a part of whose territory was ceded to Andorra on that occasion, protested and filed a lawsuit saying the cession was against the French Constitution, but the Conseil d'Etat refused to hear the case.

Even more interestingly, in 1984 France ceded to Germany 7 km² of the Mundat Forest near Wissembourg (the Germans had always refused to acknowledge French sovereignty over that area). Of course the people in Wissembourg were quite unhappy (that area in the Mundat Forest had been given to them by Pepin the Short, the father of Charlemagne, in 760).
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Old January 8th, 2010, 06:40 PM   #2616
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Btw, is there any country in Europe where using the headlights on the main roads isn't mandatory ?
Only "Old Europe".
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Old January 8th, 2010, 06:41 PM   #2617
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The danish motorway limit is wrong. Danish motorway speed limits was raised from 110 to 130 in '04.
My bad. Here's an updated list (this time with Romania included ). I hope this time everything is OK.
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Old January 8th, 2010, 06:47 PM   #2618
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My bad. Here's an updated list (this time with Romania included ). I hope this time everything is OK.
And for Sweden the limit is 120 on a lot of motorway stretches.
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Old January 8th, 2010, 06:48 PM   #2619
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It says "110 or 130", that's wrong as well. General is 130, on more than half of the motorway network, there's a speed limit of 110 or lower. This speed limit is posted on signs, and therefore not a general speed limit.

NOTE: I do know that i'm really a pain in the lower back, but that's the world's problem
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Old January 8th, 2010, 06:51 PM   #2620
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And for Sweden the limit is 120 on a lot of motorway stretches.
But that's not a general speed limit. The standard is 110
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