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Old January 8th, 2010, 08:12 PM   #2621
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Sweden does in fact not have general speed limits any more.
So in such a vast country, you post speed limit sign on every stretch of the road and after every intersection? And every street in the city has it's own sign with a speed limit?
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Old January 8th, 2010, 10:05 PM   #2622
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Only "Old Europe".
Italy has mandatory headlights during the day outside the town.

Anyway countries that has mandatory lights during the day except Scandinavia are:

Poland
Czech rep.
Slovakia
Hungary (outside town)
Romania
Serbia
Macedonia
Slovenia
Croatia (only during winter time, am I right?)
Italy

Probably Baltic states?

but the EU imposed that cars , produced from 2011, will have compulsory special lights that will turn on as soon as you start the engine.
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Old January 8th, 2010, 10:18 PM   #2623
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You are right about Croatia.
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Old January 8th, 2010, 10:26 PM   #2624
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Italy has mandatory headlights during the day outside the town.

Anyway countries that has mandatory lights during the day except Scandinavia are:

Poland
Czech rep.
Slovakia
Hungary (outside town)
Romania
Serbia
Macedonia
Slovenia
Croatia (only during winter time, am I right?)
Italy

Probably Baltic states?

but the EU imposed that cars , produced from 2011, will have compulsory special lights that will turn on as soon as you start the engine.
Albania too (was made a requirement sometime in the past two years).
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Old January 8th, 2010, 10:27 PM   #2625
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So in such a vast country, you post speed limit sign on every stretch of the road and after every intersection? And every street in the city has it's own sign with a speed limit?
Not every intersection. A 50 sign is usually posted at the beginning of the town and a 70 posted at the end of the town. There are not many speed limit signs inside towns AFAIK
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Old January 8th, 2010, 10:27 PM   #2626
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Italy has mandatory headlights during the day outside the town.

Anyway countries that has mandatory lights during the day except Scandinavia are:

Poland
Czech rep.
Slovakia
Hungary (outside town)
Romania
Serbia
Macedonia
Slovenia
Croatia (only during winter time, am I right?)
Italy

Probably Baltic states?

but the EU imposed that cars , produced from 2011, will have compulsory special lights that will turn on as soon as you start the engine.
RO also "(outside town)"
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Old January 8th, 2010, 10:29 PM   #2627
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but the EU imposed that cars , produced from 2011, will have compulsory special lights that will turn on as soon as you start the engine.
In Scandinavia, those lights aren't special at all. It's required by law, if the car was sold as new in Denmark.
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Old January 8th, 2010, 10:44 PM   #2628
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Not every intersection. A 50 sign is usually posted at the beginning of the town and a 70 posted at the end of the town.
But what after first intersection out of town? Do they repeat speed limit sign? Because how would then someone who joins main road in intersection know what is the speed limit if there are no general speed limits?
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Old January 8th, 2010, 11:10 PM   #2629
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Italy has mandatory headlights during the day outside the town.

Anyway countries that has mandatory lights during the day except Scandinavia are:

Poland
Czech rep.
Slovakia
Hungary (outside town)
Romania
Serbia
Macedonia
Slovenia
Croatia (only during winter time, am I right?)
Italy

Probably Baltic states?

but the EU imposed that cars , produced from 2011, will have compulsory special lights that will turn on as soon as you start the engine.
You shall also add Bulgaria (headlights compulsory between October 1 and March 31).
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Old January 9th, 2010, 12:40 AM   #2630
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But what after first intersection out of town? Do they repeat speed limit sign? Because how would then someone who joins main road in intersection know what is the speed limit if there are no general speed limits?
I actually do not know. We have the same problem in Denmark on motorways, where there's typically 1-3km between speed limit signs. If you enter a motorway in an area with many exits, and you exit early, there might not be a speed limit sign on the stretch of motorway you've driven. Or, there could be more than a kilometer from you enter the motorway to the first speed sign.
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Old January 9th, 2010, 12:44 AM   #2631
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If a speed limit other than the general speed limit for such a road is not repeated, the general speed limit applies. For instance, if the general speed limit on Danish motorways is 130 km/h (even if half of DK is limited to 110), and there is no 110 km/h at the ramp or after the interchange, 130 km/h applies. That's the whole idea to prevent massive amounts of speed limit signs in rural areas. Something they still have to find out in the States.
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Old January 9th, 2010, 12:48 AM   #2632
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Does the US even have state- or nationwide general speed limits??
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Old January 9th, 2010, 12:50 AM   #2633
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But that's not a general speed limit. The standard is 110
No, there is no standard anymore. New motorways are to be built to allow 120, and since the speed limit always has to be posted, you can't say that the general limit is this or that. It's true that 110 is the most common limit, but as with the Danish case, that doesn't mean that it's the standard.
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The U.S. has statewide speed limits. For instance, in Pennsylvania, the general speed limit is 55 mph, unless otherwise posted. So they need to post massive amount of speed limits on freeways where the speed limit is higher. It's not that freeways automatically allow 65 mph for instance, they have to post this.

Speed limits on freeways are still generally low in the U.S. compared to Europe. Only a few states allow 75 or 80 mph.
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Old January 9th, 2010, 12:57 AM   #2635
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Is this general speed limit posted anywhere, or are people just supposed to know it??
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Old January 9th, 2010, 01:01 AM   #2636
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In Scandinavia, those lights aren't special at all. It's required by law, if the car was sold as new in Denmark.
Yes you are right like in other countries that I listed before. It is just EU made this new requirements for the car producers and it is a kind of imposing indirectly mandatory lights during the day for the whole EU.
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You shall also add Bulgaria (headlights compulsory between October 1 and March 31).
Thanks I didn't know about Bulgaria.
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Old January 9th, 2010, 01:09 AM   #2638
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Yes you are right like in other countries that I listed before. It is just EU made this new requirements for the car producers and it is a kind of imposing indirectly mandatory lights during the day for the whole EU.
Judging by the amount of idiots near me who will wait until it is pitch black before using their headlights, or not use them at all in fog, mandatory headlights can only be a good thing. I was cycling last week in icy weather with thick fog and about 25% of cars had no lights on at all. I really worry about peoples awareness sometimes.
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Old January 9th, 2010, 02:27 AM   #2639
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Old January 10th, 2010, 11:35 AM   #2640
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Estonia - Latvia border crossing of Ainaži:





Sweden - Norway border at Svinesund (with the same "always use the headlights" sign ):


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