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Old March 13th, 2010, 10:48 AM   #2921
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The sign says "In Germany, pedestrians have right of way" which scares me. That would mean they don't have right of way in France??
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Old March 13th, 2010, 05:40 PM   #2922
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They don't in the UK either.
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Old March 13th, 2010, 06:33 PM   #2923
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Not even on a pedestrain crossing? I thought they did as where I am used to go and to live this rule is valid.
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Old March 13th, 2010, 09:53 PM   #2924
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Zebra crossings (or similar) in the UK do not give pedestrians total priority - cars are meant to stop, but don't have to. And these sorts of crossings are very rare in the UK, at least in most places. (Unlike in many European countries where they are very common..) Instead more "formal" pedestrian crossings are used generally, where traffic is controlled by lights, often controlled by pedestrians pressing a button.

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Old March 14th, 2010, 03:13 AM   #2925
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We are in France
In fact I believe when you took that picture you were still in Germany. The exact Franco-German border is further down, more towards the bottom of the hill in the background of your picture (the houses visible at the bottom of the hill are in France). You should be aware that in Europe the country signs are rarely posted on the exact borders.
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Old March 14th, 2010, 03:29 AM   #2926
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Is Schoenek to be pronounced "Schöneck"?
Apparently yes, it's pronounced like "Schöneck" in German, or "Cheunèque" in French (see video below). But I suspect a lot of French people not from Alsace-Lorraine would pronounce it as "Chonèque", or "Schohneck" in German if you prefer.


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Old March 14th, 2010, 03:36 AM   #2927
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Not sure. I think the locals would call it "Shohnek". Forbach, Remich, and the like are pronounced with sh, not ś at the end.
Don't know about Remich, but Forbach is definitely pronounced with a hard "k" in the end in French. Johann Sebastian Bach is also called "Jean Sébastien Bach" in French, with a hard "k" in the end.
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Old March 14th, 2010, 01:29 PM   #2928
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This is on the Swedish-Finnish border. Unfortunately I cannot rad the sign, but this EU-sign looks trilangual to me. As far as I can see, The sign shows Ruotsi (Finnish for Sweden), Sverige, but what about the third word (in the middle)??

All other signs (on the Finnish) side I could find are bilangual (Finnish and Swedish)
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Old March 14th, 2010, 01:47 PM   #2929
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It is probably in Sami.
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Old March 14th, 2010, 10:28 PM   #2930
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As Chris stated, it's in Sami.
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Old March 15th, 2010, 04:34 AM   #2931
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It is discriminatory in first place. Moreover, the greatest challenge is not place UK Border Force officers in control posts, but update stations to UK border security standards: x-ray facilities, sealed platform etc.
What would be discriminatory about it? I don't know about today, but there were certainly plenty of border crossings in the past which were restricted to EU citizens plus a few select others. The tourist border crossings between PL and DE/CZ/SK come to mind. The EU certainly has always operated on the principle that only its citizens are entitled to benefit from the EU.

The only real issue I can see is that there would need to be some sort of identity check to confirm Union citizenship - but this could easily be done by maintaining the legal fiction that the ID card is required to validate the ticket. It's illegal to cross a Schengen border without valid ID after all.

Updating the stations wouldn't be that difficult if there was the will to do so - look at the Calais Ferry Terminal foot passenger border crossing for an example of how it can be done in a small space and on the cheap.

The real reason may be that Amsterdam simply isn't economically worthwhile to run to.
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Old March 15th, 2010, 05:15 PM   #2932
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The sign says "In Germany, pedestrians have right of way" which scares me. That would mean they don't have right of way in France??
Theorically, they have it on pedestrian crossings in France too...but only theorically.
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Old March 16th, 2010, 01:15 PM   #2933
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Max. 10 km/h on the Dutch/German border
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Old March 16th, 2010, 01:46 PM   #2934
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Crossing into the Republic of Ireland from the UK:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Belf...76.43,,0,11.71

Same road but now crossing the other way, into the UK:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Belf...,0.090895&z=14

As you can see the only way you know you're crossing the border is that the speed limits change from mph to kmph (when going from UK to RoI)... and that's a fairly recent development, as the Republic was mph - not sure when they changed, but it was only a few years ago.
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Old March 16th, 2010, 02:51 PM   #2935
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Crossing into the Republic of Ireland from the UK ... Same road but now crossing the other way, into the UK ... As you can see the only way you know you're crossing the border is that the speed limits change from mph to kmph (when going from UK to RoI) ...
Thanks for posting.

I've never seen pictures of UK/ROI border before.
I guess the border line is where the road markings change from white to yellow/white in the vicinity of that speed limit information sign.

But for the life of me I cannot understand why neither country uses EU stars.
Is this conspiracy or a ****-up?
Or is it just plain old stupid anti-EU politics that qualifies for an ASBO?



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Old March 16th, 2010, 08:59 PM   #2936
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they could at least put any sign which indicates changing the country. or that's about that IRL/NIR stuff?
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Old March 16th, 2010, 09:17 PM   #2937
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Yes, it is, people would complain that it's not a border blah blah blah, so they just don't sign it.



The border is where the outer line changes colour.
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Old March 16th, 2010, 11:20 PM   #2938
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Max. 10 km/h on the Luxembourgish/French border (Map):
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Old March 16th, 2010, 11:39 PM   #2939
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But for the life of me I cannot understand why neither country uses EU stars.
Is this conspiracy or a ****-up?
Or is it just plain old stupid anti-EU politics that qualifies for an ASBO?
No, nothing to do with anti-EU sentiment. The border has never been properly marked or signed. Which is fair enough, considering the circumstances and the strong feelings people have in Ireland one way or another. Any signs saying "welcome to the UK" or similar would be destroyed pretty quickly I'd imagine!!

It should be remembered also that the UK-RoI border has always been open (perhaps with the exception of during WWII) and the two countries are not part of Schengen, instead they have their own arrangements for open borders.

The only other international border the UK has in deep below the English Channel roughly halfway along inside the Channel Tunnel! Alas, I don't think it's marked - or at least I haven't seen any photos of any such markings down there! Would be great if someone could post them if they do exist.

Gibraltar - Spain and the borders of the UK sovereign bases on Cyprus are the only other British (but not UK) international crossings, I believe. All the other overseas territories/crown dependencies (which are not part of the UK) are islands.
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Old March 16th, 2010, 11:42 PM   #2940
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The foreigners basically -

Irish is OK - Pretty, why not?

Dislike an object standing, that I do not even notice of.

What are you supposed to be here and flock to?

Want me to push off the road?

UGLY.

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