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Old May 7th, 2010, 03:40 PM   #3121
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Not exactly. Gibraltar is not actually part of the UK. It is a British overseas territory and it depends on the UK but it has a special regime
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Old May 7th, 2010, 07:17 PM   #3122
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It isn't according to UK internal law, but for external affairs, including the EU, it is
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Old May 9th, 2010, 02:03 AM   #3123
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European borders are so exciting, that i suggest that a new thread should be open just for it! So we should have 'European border crossings' and ' International Border Crossings without Europe'. Sure the International Border crossings thread will be dead, while the European one lives on! :p :p
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Old May 9th, 2010, 02:07 AM   #3124
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That's just because there are so many psoters from Europe in this forum. There are still plente uf USA-Canada and USA-Mexico pix here, but fewer from Central and South America, even fewer from Asia and fewest from Africa. Hope to see more of the latter.
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Old May 9th, 2010, 02:23 AM   #3125
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I've found a street view corresponding to the satellite view I posted the other day re: the border of Brussels and Flanders.

This is the satellite view I posted:
[img]http://i40.************/262oeir.jpg[/img]

And this is a street view. It has to be one of the most extreme borders around in Europe...
[img]http://i39.************/so8eg8.png[/img]

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Old May 9th, 2010, 05:10 PM   #3126
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Seriously, can't you just let the subject go?

You're seemingly more obsessed with it than we Belgians are...

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Old May 9th, 2010, 11:21 PM   #3127
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The subject here is borders. If you don't like it, no one forces you to read the thread.
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Old May 9th, 2010, 11:27 PM   #3128
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Historically, people in Gemmenich spoke a Germanic transitional dialect between the Dutch and German dialect areas which has been given a bewildering number of names (South-East Limburgish, Southern-Meuse Rhenish, Ripuarian transitional, Low Dietsch, etc.; in French: francique carolingien), but which locals simply call Platduutsj, or Platt (in French: Thiois). In this dialect Gemmenich is known as Jömelech.
I've found an audio file of the historical dialect spoken in Gemmenich. I wonder whether the Dutch and German forumers here think it sounds more like Dutch or more like German.

Here is the link (I'm not sure the journalist in the beginning speaks in Gemmenich dialect, but the person who answers the journalist's questions after a few minutes into the recording speaks for sure in Gemmenich dialect): http://users.telenet.be/sf15116/Plat...chnical_f.html
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Old May 10th, 2010, 12:34 AM   #3129
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The topic here is International border crossings.

The Regional border crossings thread is just round the corner:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=748010
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Old May 10th, 2010, 01:14 AM   #3130
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The border between Gemmenich and Vaals is an international border. As for the border of Brussels, it could soon become an international border too, so it's worth mentioning.
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Old May 10th, 2010, 12:34 PM   #3131
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I've found an audio file of the historical dialect spoken in Gemmenich. I wonder whether the Dutch and German forumers here think it sounds more like Dutch or more like German.

Here is the link (I'm not sure the journalist in the beginning speaks in Gemmenich dialect, but the person who answers the journalist's questions after a few minutes into the recording speaks for sure in Gemmenich dialect): http://users.telenet.be/sf15116/Plat...chnical_f.html
duutsj = deutsch (i.e. in Switzerland the language is also called düütsch in the local dialects)

But seriously, hard to understand if someone is not from the lower Rhine area, people from i.e. Aachen shouldn´t have any problems with that i guess.

But maybe our dutch friends have another opinion?

Nevertheless, very very interesting stuff, maybe there should be a seperate topic for stuff like that here?
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Old May 14th, 2010, 03:43 PM   #3132
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The usual border troubles on the Dutch A1 motorway.

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Old May 14th, 2010, 03:46 PM   #3133
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Are they planning any solution? enlarging the rest areas?
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Old May 14th, 2010, 03:59 PM   #3134
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Recently the Lonnekermeer rest area was expanded, it has a capacity of about 250 trucks (which would make it one of the largest in Europe). The border rest area, however, has physical restrictions, and cannot be enlarged anymore.

The Dutch proposed to build a mega truck parking 5 kilometers into Germany, because there is sufficient space there. The Germans, however, insist on enforcing that truck ban at the border exactly, they do not want to let them pass 5 km through Germany so they can reach the truck parking.

So, the Netherlands will continue to suffer from German legislation, so it's unclear what to do next. Enlarging Dutch truck parking over half an hour driving from the German border is not a solution.

They could build another truck parking near Oldenzaal, but the problem is this is a natura 2000 area.
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Old May 14th, 2010, 04:17 PM   #3135
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Another solution is to have a common ban with Germany.
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Old May 14th, 2010, 11:56 PM   #3136
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Timelapse of the truck troubles at the border.

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Old May 15th, 2010, 01:32 AM   #3137
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That's so typical German, excuse me, but the unflexible way of thinking is a heritage from prussian times. Ok, we habe the sunday driving ban for trucks in Germany; it's a good thing since the autobahns are more empty then.

But that should not lead to such a chaos on the Dutch-German border, especially on the important E30 route. Just five kilometers -- please!

Oh, I forgot: Of course there will be the usual Nimbys of the nearest village campaigning: STOP THE TRUCK HORROR IN OUR TINY LITTLE VILLAGE! when the German parking lot, against all odds, will be planned one day near the A 30.
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Old May 15th, 2010, 08:24 PM   #3138
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The usual border troubles on the Dutch A1 motorway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5RHq...layer_embedded
I imagine what a nightmare has to be to pass that border by a normal car at about 10 PM. You will have miles of trucks on first lane which you have to pass.
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Old May 16th, 2010, 08:53 PM   #3139
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The border between Gemmenich and Vaals is an international border. As for the border of Brussels, it could soon become an international border too, so it's worth mentioning.
I doubt it.
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Old May 17th, 2010, 03:21 PM   #3140
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Another solution is to have a common ban with Germany.
I'm clearly missing something here, and I don't mind admitting my ignorance.

Just why are trucks queuing at the Holland-Germany border? I though the days of border stops within the EU, apart from the UK, had come to a stop many years ago.

Have I travelled back in time?
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