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Old June 18th, 2010, 08:03 PM   #3221
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I was on N-240 2 years ago south of Andorra. That was such a 100 km/h road with small shoulders. 100 was a very pleasant speed

I gotta say many Spanish N-roads are really built for speed and driving comfort. Many of those N-roads would've been 80 km/h roads in other countries with a much less optimal alignment.
N-240? South of Andorra? I bet you were between Tarragona and Lerida, because between Lerida and Huesca is almost a death trap. And with that radar(?) just after a 70 km/h prohibition sign arriving at Huesca...

I have a photo of the French/Italian border. I will upload it on the next days.
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Old June 18th, 2010, 08:53 PM   #3222
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Ehm, I meant N-260

I have traveled on N-240 between Barbastro and Lleida, A-22 didn't existed back then. We still had to travel through Monzón.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 07:54 PM   #3223
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Police checkpoint to enter in Algeria from Tunisia.

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Old June 21st, 2010, 10:19 PM   #3224
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The non-existent border: right - Poland (Chałupki), left - Czech Republic (Šilheřovice).
On the sidewalk -the border stone.



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Old June 22nd, 2010, 09:48 AM   #3225
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european borders are so........ boring
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 11:11 AM   #3226
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There are hardly or no (Schengen!) checks, that is true. However, it is still interesting how borders here run through fields, roads or even houses and sometimes a traveller can not determine in which country he or she is in. That could be quite interesting enough
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 11:47 AM   #3227
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european borders are so........ boring
you are kinda right
in Europe we have 2 options:
1. Schengen borders - unique, but boring. do they actually belong to this thread?
2. non-Schengen borders. border just like that with no other purposes. why i say that? because in Africa, Asia and South America border crossings seem to be like centres of life. it is so colourfull there, public transportation stations (many public means of transportation reach the border there, you cross it by feet and take another bus or cab or something), markets, people...

our customs officers would go mad if somebody would park his private bus near the bordercrossing and wait commuters not to mention market-booths with items for sale or local fast food restaurants they are pissed enough each time even without that
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 05:33 PM   #3228
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Even more, in the Schengen-countries, borders are so non-visible that it is a nice challenge to find everything which has to do with borders (border markers, signs, houses half in one, half in an other country, etc.). So sorry guys, I stil have plans for some roadtrips along Schengenborders

The borders between Croatia and Slovenia are not checked everywhere and mostly marked). There is interesting stuff as well, like the Kalin-restaurant in Bregana.
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 08:57 PM   #3229
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Another weird border between Slovenia and Croatia.
It is centuries-old. It used to be the border between Carniola and Croatia, and also the one between Austria and Hungary during the Austro-Hungarian empire.

You can find it with these coordinates:
N 45° 41' 32".21
E 15° 18' 25".67

The area around a small town called "Brezovica pri Metliki".
And also check "Brašljevica", just 4 Km towards East.
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Another weird border between Slovenia and Croatia.
It is centuries-old. It used to be the border between Carniola and Croatia, and also the one between Austria and Hungary during the Austro-Hungarian empire.

You can find it with these coordinates:
N 45° 41' 32".21
E 15° 18' 25".67

The area around a small town called "Brezovica pri Metliki".
And also check "Brašljevica", just 4 Km towards East.
yep. there you can pass border 15 times in 1 km going just straight without single turn
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 09:19 PM   #3231
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Another weird border between Slovenia and Croatia.
It is centuries-old. It used to be the border between Carniola and Croatia, and also the one between Austria and Hungary during the Austro-Hungarian empire.

The area around a small town called "Brezovica pri Metliki".
And also check "Brašljevica", just 4 Km towards East.
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 09:22 PM   #3232
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european borders are so........ boring
Yea... Europe is old and boring
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 10:08 PM   #3233
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Is it possible anyway to drive 1 km without any checks?
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 10:27 PM   #3234
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Alex (and i) is talking just about border line, not about border crossing
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Old June 23rd, 2010, 07:16 AM   #3235
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Ok, It's time for the requested non-european border crossings.

This is a secondary border crossing between Argentina and Brazil. Basicly it is one of those "divided-type cities" as in some parts of Europe. Argentinian Bernardo de Irigoyen frontier with brazilians Barraçao and Dionisio Cerquerira (yes, Brazilian side has 2 different municipalities on a single small urban area).

Crossborder is everyday life here and some schools are even biligual spanish portuguese. There are some border checks when crossing by car, but you can walk into the other country without much problems. Mercosur citizens (Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, Paraguay) only need ID to cross the borders (pretty much like EU citizens when crossing non schengen EU countries).

Right side is Brazil and left side is Argentina:



Main official border crossing by car:




Argentinian side city center with border crossing for cars on the back:
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Old June 23rd, 2010, 08:53 PM   #3236
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Ok, It's time for the requested non-european border crossings.

This is a secondary border crossing between Argentina and Brazil. Basicly it is one of those "divided-type cities" as in some parts of Europe. Argentinian Bernardo de Irigoyen frontier with brazilians Barraçao and Dionisio Cerquerira (yes, Brazilian side has 2 different municipalities on a single small urban area).

Crossborder is everyday life here and some schools are even biligual spanish portuguese. There are some border checks when crossing by car, but you can walk into the other country without much problems. Mercosur citizens (Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, Paraguay) only need ID to cross the borders (pretty much like EU citizens when crossing non schengen EU countries).
From checking Google aerial images, apparently, the Brasilian side is divided into two separate municipalities because the urbanized area on their side is bisected by a state line (Paraná/Santa Catarina).

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=-...21973&t=k&z=16

(imagining the World Cup fun there if both Brasil and Argentina advance to play each other.... )

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Another bisected town:

Rock Island, Quebec, Canada/Derby Line, Vermont, USA

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=4...21973&t=k&z=16

A few of the buildings there straddle the border.

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Old June 24th, 2010, 02:42 PM   #3237
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yep. there you can pass border 15 times in 1 km going just straight without single turn
In a km? If it were 1.5 km I would understand it, but...
(Just measured in Google Earth).

I believe there's a town where some houses are Dutch and some Belgian, and they are mixed!
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Old June 24th, 2010, 02:57 PM   #3238
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I believe there's a town where some houses are Dutch and some Belgian, and they are mixed!
It's called Baarle-Hertog. There must be a couple of websites devoted to it.
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Baarle-Hertog and Baarle-Nassau



Today I saw for the first time in my life Dutch police (Marechausse) checking every car entering the Netherlands from Belgium (at Sluis, traffic coming from Brugge). Although I know that there are rare checks at the Belgian-Dutch border, this was the first time I saw it (I wasn't checked since I drove into Belgium).
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Some pics from around the Dutch-Belgian border.

Belgium: You can drive to the Netherlands or to "all directions".


Some odd EU-signs.



Entering Eede


Bordermarker in a lot of asfalt.


Bordermarker: The picture is taken from Belgium, the houses (and the little sign next tot the bordermarker) are Dutch.


This Dutch streets ends on a Belgian road


Devided road: Left is Dutch, right is Belgian



The border runs through the village 'Overslag': Leaving Belgium, entering the Netherlands



Border between Nieuw-Namen (NL) and Kieldrecht (B). The border is there where the orange flags stop (hung almost everywhere in the Netherlands because of the Worldcup Soccer)
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