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Old February 9th, 2011, 09:14 AM   #4081
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Old February 9th, 2011, 01:21 PM   #4082
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I know that many of you guys complained that we don't have many International border crossings here. I found an interesting article about the border conflict between Cambodia and Thailand. Here you have 2 pictures from it:

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Thai soldiers stand alert at checkpoint the 11th-century Preah Vihear temple at the border between Thailand and Cambodia on February 8, 2011 in Sisaket, Thailand. Getty Images / Athit Perawongmetha


A Thai man walks though a bomb crater near Sisaket, Thailand, near the border with Cambodia, Monday, Feb. 7, 2011. AP / Stringer
The original article is here.
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Old February 9th, 2011, 03:22 PM   #4083
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Probably the most spectacular and - I imagine - one of the most dangerous border crossings in the world: Wagah (Pakistan) / Atari (India):

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Old February 9th, 2011, 03:52 PM   #4084
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Old February 9th, 2011, 07:04 PM   #4085
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It came on my mind some Peter Sellers' movies!!
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Old February 9th, 2011, 08:39 PM   #4086
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That is gimnastic
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Old February 9th, 2011, 09:58 PM   #4087
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True, Ireland will gladly join but not while the UK is outside because we want the Northern Irish border to be open.

If Northern Ireland had some opt-out within the UK to join Schengen that would work. Can't see that happening though.

The thing is the Common travel area is totally unofficial and inconsistent anyway. Everyone goes through passport control at Dublin airport but going the other way Irish flights to the UK are treated like domestic ones in their airports. Plus there's no official common visa rules etc. So even though someone can cross the border no problem a non-EEA citizen is supposed to get two visas to do that (hence the border line on that map). In practice though...

The UK is against fully joining the Schengen area because it thinks it is better placed to control its own borders, being island based. Can understand that point of view. Didn't stop Iceland joining though.
The idea of a part of the UK entering Schengen, putting up a border with the rest, is politically impossible. Not only would it be highly controversial, but Northern Ireland wouldn't be able to participate as a full member, meaning the UK government would have to be the signatory.

As for Iceland, they were already a part of the Nordic Passport Union, which was and is more integrated than Schengen. The NPU signaturies entered Schengen jointly. Not entering Schengen would've almost certainly meant Iceland having to withdraw from the NPU.
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Old February 9th, 2011, 11:21 PM   #4088
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I wish that the whole of the UK would enter Schengen. Although, one issue with Schengen is the redundancy of border guards, look at what happened to the Germans
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Old February 10th, 2011, 09:40 PM   #4089
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The idea of a part of the UK entering Schengen, putting up a border with the rest, is politically impossible. Not only would it be highly controversial, but Northern Ireland wouldn't be able to participate as a full member, meaning the UK government would have to be the signatory.

As for Iceland, they were already a part of the Nordic Passport Union, which was and is more integrated than Schengen. The NPU signaturies entered Schengen jointly. Not entering Schengen would've almost certainly meant Iceland having to withdraw from the NPU.
Oh yeah absolutely it won't happen, just it is a lot easier to defend an island frontier.

Interesting stuff about Iceland, I didn't know that but it makes a lot of sense.
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Old February 11th, 2011, 03:40 PM   #4090
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Few years ago I went on vacation to Bulgaria and most beautiful border crossing I've ever seen was between Romania and Serbia on a Danube River. Everything would be great if romanian and serbian border guards not demanded bribes for crossing.
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http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...54324&t=h&z=13
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Old February 11th, 2011, 04:09 PM   #4091
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Really? Do you happen to know how much a border guard earns in Serbia and Romania, and the average general income in the two countries?
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Old February 11th, 2011, 04:47 PM   #4092
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@ Rombi: bribe for what? For letting you cross? How is that? What did they told you?
I'm just curious, I was never the subject of a bribe request in any of the Romanian border crossings with Serbia.
You are right, Porţile de Fier (The Iron Gates) is a beautiful border crossing.
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Old February 11th, 2011, 06:10 PM   #4093
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Me neither. I cross Serbia┤s borders quite often and never they asked for bribes. The same for the police, they never accepted foreign money to pay the fines, they preferred to let me go without paying them. My experience is that the Serbian guards are nicer and quite friendly , more than Hungarian or Macedonian ones.
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Old February 11th, 2011, 08:09 PM   #4094
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Oh yeah absolutely it won't happen, just it is a lot easier to defend an island frontier.
True, although even if there was an independent, united Ireland, I would still suggest it'd make more sense to have a common travel area with Britain, considering the obvious ties, both economically & culturally that Ireland has with England, Scotland & Wales, British or not.

As for in this reality, I reckon, if anything, the UK & Ireland should increase co÷peration in terms of immigration, visa requirements etc so that the land border between the 6 and the 34 needs little if any sort of presence.

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Old February 11th, 2011, 09:36 PM   #4095
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Ah, you're right, I wasn't thinking of that.
What's the EEA?
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Old February 11th, 2011, 09:39 PM   #4096
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European Economic Area: basically the EU along with Norway, Iceland & Liechtenstein.
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Old February 11th, 2011, 09:41 PM   #4097
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European Economic Area?

I'm in the States - it's hard to keep the various permutations of Europe straight. I know there's the EU, and the Schengen area and the Eurozone and the European Council (or something like that).... Is the EEA another way of saying the Eurozone?

EDIT: Ah. Posted before you expanded your answer. Thanks.
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Old February 11th, 2011, 10:01 PM   #4098
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Signs between the Sovereign Base Areas, the Republic of Cyprus and the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus;



Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus-SBA





Pergamus/Beyarmudu

The sign says "Eastern SBA"





Strovilia/Akyar



Note the border stone:



Republic of Cyprus / SBA's


From the Republic of Cyprus:





SBA to right of stone



From "Boundaries of Cyprus"
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Old February 11th, 2011, 11:14 PM   #4099
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What's the EEA?
You've already got the answer, but here you can also see it written at a Slovenian border crossing (with Croatia):


http://www.panoramio.com/photo/22773891 by Anjani Gupta
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Old February 12th, 2011, 12:19 AM   #4100
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This might make things a little clearer! Or....

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