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Old February 20th, 2011, 04:04 AM   #4141
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zollamt is hungarian?
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Old February 20th, 2011, 04:17 AM   #4142
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zollamt is hungarian?
No, zoll is German for customs. Zollamt means customs office. Vámhivatal would be the translation for customs office in Hungarian.

It reminds me of a trip I made to Germany and Austria back in 1979, way back before Schengen. I was riding the bus from Garmisch-Partenkirchen to Innsbruck and we went on a two lane road and went through a customs station similar to the Austrian customs station on the Slovenian border pictured earlier.

What was the volume of traffic coming into Austria from Slovenia at this customs station before Schengen took place? I imagine the traffic volume was not much compared to the world's busiest border customs station in the USA in San Ysidro, CA.
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Old February 20th, 2011, 04:41 AM   #4143
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zollamt is hungarian?
Coming from someone called "hofburg"?!

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What was the volume of traffic coming into Austria from Slovenia at this customs station before Schengen took place? I imagine the traffic volume was not much compared to the world's busiest border customs station in the USA in San Ysidro, CA.
It was higher than now. 1,048 AADT in 2007, and 824 AADT in 2009. But it's a minor border crossing.
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Old February 20th, 2011, 12:51 PM   #4144
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No, zoll is German for customs. Zollamt means customs office. Vámhivatal would be the translation for customs office in Hungarian.
actually, Hungarians have written Határátkelöhely on their border crossings but that should mean only "border crossing"
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Old February 20th, 2011, 01:21 PM   #4145
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In Austria the border was controlled by the Customs, so the border crossing is the customs office, and a customs officer would ask for your passports. The Austrian border is (was ) patrolled and guarded by the military AFAIK. In Hungary the border was guarded and controlled by the Border Guard, so you had to show your passport to a border guard officer. The Border Guard was integrated into the Police a few years ago, so now there are policemen on the borders. On the other hand, a customs office is part of the border crossing, and you are checked by a customs officer too when entering the country (of course only at non-EU borders).
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Old February 20th, 2011, 02:24 PM   #4146
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Coming from someone called "hofburg"?!
oops. I speak only basic german. zollamt sounded to me like one hungarian word.
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Old February 20th, 2011, 03:14 PM   #4147
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In Hungary the border was guarded and controlled by the Border Guard, so you had to show your passport to a border guard officer. The Border Guard was integrated into the Police a few years ago, so now there are policemen on the borders. On the other hand, a customs office is part of the border crossing, and you are checked by a customs officer too when entering the country (of course only at non-EU borders).
That reminds me, a few years ago I went from Budapest to Vienna via Slovakia (crossing at Sahy). In the last town before the border I was pulled over. The two officers identified themselves as border police and checked my passport. They looked at it for 2 secs and let me go. At the actual crossing they barely glanced at my passport and waved me through.
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Old February 21st, 2011, 10:25 PM   #4148
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border crossing in the night: raccordo autostradale Villesse-Gorizia/ H4 Nova Gorica-Razdrto.

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Old February 22nd, 2011, 09:41 PM   #4149
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Old February 22nd, 2011, 09:44 PM   #4150
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It depended - in case you were non-Schengen-zone-citizen - on your reply - where you were travelling to, for how many days, the reason of your trip etc., no wonder if you attracted more attention......

Well, somewhere the fortress is protected by walls and the iron curtain and the round the corner - there is a hole in fence...
It was around 2 in the morning driving onto the Ferry at Dover to Calais. They had some difficulties earlier, so they were behind schedule loading the ferries(we actually got a ferry 2 hours after we were supposed too), and then I flew from Oslo to Lisbon and then transferred to a "out of Schengen" flight. :-) I guess not too many people drive into the Schengen area and then fly out, especially in their own car.(not the flying out bit). :-)
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Old February 24th, 2011, 07:23 AM   #4151
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24-hour border checkpoints proposed

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Businesses are proposing that the government open around-the-clock border checkpoints at Sadao in Songkhla, Nong Khai and Ban Khlong Luek in Sa Kaeo to ease traffic congestion.

Niyom Wairatpanij, chairman of the Thai Chamber of Commerce’s committee on border trade development, urged acceleration of 24-hour operations at the three checkpoints, especially in the South at Sadao, which suffers the most from congestion.

He also urged the government to accelerate construction of the US$300-million Hat Yai-Sadao motorway to ease persistent traffic problems between those two points.

Operating around the clock would enhance Thailand’s chances of becoming a regional tourism and logistics hub, said Mr Niyom.

He pointed out that Sadao was a significant checkpoint for both trade and tourism, so the government should add more lanes to the three at present and enlarge the Sadao-Hat Yai road, he said.

A survey of 100 companies in the Greater Mekong Subregion last year indicated non-stop checkpoint operations would increase the logistics efficiency of regional goods supply.

Mr Niyom said facilities should be improved before introducing 24-hour operation, with separate lanes for immigration tourism procedures and customs formalities for goods.

Tharadol Piempongsan, a deputy secretary-general to Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, sees an opportunity to run the first 24-hour checkpoint at Sadao, bordering Malaysia.

Other checkpoints are in the pipeline for Mukdahan, Mae Sot, Chiang Khong, Nakhon Phanom and Nong Khai.

However, bilateral agreements must be in place before these can be implemented, said Mr Niyom.

The Customs Department reported the main obstacles at various checkpoints are drugs and a shortage of officials.

These are most acute at Mae Sai and Chiang Kong in Chiang Rai, Mae Sot in Tak, Ban Khlong Luek in Sa Kaeo’s Aranyaprathet district, Mukdahan and Nong Khai – all right on the border – as well as in Sakon Nakhon province.

The Foreign Trade Department reported border trade value of 778 billion baht last year, up by 21.7% from 2009. Thai exports totalled 486 billion baht and imports 292 billion, giving Thailand a trade surplus of 194 billion.

The ministry projects growth of 10.5% this year to 860 billion baht – 547 billion with Malaysia (up 10%), 148.6 billion with Burma (up 7.8%), 104.6 billion with Laos (up 20%) and 59.8 billion baht with Cambodia (up 8%).

Tariff reductions for 8,300 items under the Asean Free Trade Area and economic growth of 5-7% in neighbouring countries are factors in the burgeoning trade

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Old February 24th, 2011, 08:36 PM   #4152
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A few pics I made of the northernmost German-Polish motorway border crossing (A6/A11). I've made these pics last monday, from a train to Szczecin.

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German-Polish border near Kołbaskowo by Timon91, on Flickr

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German-Polish border near Kołbaskowo by Timon91, on Flickr

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Old February 24th, 2011, 10:20 PM   #4153
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Old February 25th, 2011, 04:08 AM   #4154
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the United Kingdom is the country here, not Scotland or England.
The UK is a political union and the unitary state made up of four constiuent countries.

Scotland having being united as a country in AD843 joined a political union with England in AD1707 but did not cease to be a country.

I think many people confuse the term country (from Wikipedia):

"A country is a geographical region considered to be the physical territory of a sovereign state, or of a smaller, or former, political division within a geographical region. Usually, but not always, a country coincides with a sovereign territory and is associated with a state, nation or government"
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Anyway, here is the Scottish border.

[IMG]http://i52.************/mi2o13.jpg[/IMG]

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Old February 25th, 2011, 04:43 AM   #4155
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Interesting photo - reminded me of something. I can't remember the specific date but didn't Scotland recently campaign for full independence from the U.K? What is the current situation?
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Old February 25th, 2011, 05:16 AM   #4156
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Interesting photo - reminded me of something. I can't remember the specific date but didn't Scotland recently campaign for full independence from the U.K? What is the current situation?
The Scottish Government is the SNP which were elected in 2007 and the SNP advocate full sovereign independance for Scotland.

The next elections are in May this year and should the SNP form the next government (they are currently ahead in polls) they will bring an independance referendum bill forward in 2011 for the people of Scotland to decide.

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Scotland having being united as a country in AD843 joined a political union with England in AD1707 but did not cease to be a country.

[IMG]http://i52.************/mi2o13.jpg[/IMG]
What is it that made Scotland retain the title of country?? What criteria are you using? I never see any solid evidence.

And if it still is one, it certainly isn't an international border, as the UK has the international border. If Scotland is indeed still a country, then shouldn't we have to consider Bavaria or the Basque region or even Texas as countries too?
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Old February 25th, 2011, 09:05 PM   #4158
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Old February 25th, 2011, 09:58 PM   #4159
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I find very interesting blue EU sign on Austrian side. Have they forgotten to remove or replace it by something more up to date?
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Old February 25th, 2011, 11:13 PM   #4160
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The 3.5 t sign - are they common at border crossings in Europe?
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