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Old July 27th, 2011, 09:36 PM   #4821
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Strange place to put a no-entry sign!

Beautiful scenery!
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Old July 27th, 2011, 10:57 PM   #4822
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Nice pic....

We know a lot of borders... but few of them from Africa.


Is there any custom control or there is free transit?
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Old July 28th, 2011, 12:47 PM   #4823
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Access to the area is from South Africa. It's in a transfrontier wilderness area between South Africa and Botswana, so the border between South Africa and Botswana is unfenced. One can freely cross between South Africa and Botswana while in the park - if you want to enter the park in one country and leave in the other, you have to do immigration at the respective entry/exit gates.

Namibia isn't a part of this, so the Namibian border is fenced, which you can see to the left of the photo. As far as I know, there is no border crossing into Namibia in the area.

The photo is in SA, straight ahead is Botswana (hence the no-entry sign!), and as mentioned earlier, the Namibian fence is on the left.
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Old July 28th, 2011, 10:45 PM   #4824
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Something similar as at Nova Gorizia before the Schengen treaty?

Seems interesting!!!!!!
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Old July 30th, 2011, 05:27 PM   #4825
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The Germany Swiss Border in Basel and Weil am Rhein


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Old July 30th, 2011, 05:32 PM   #4826
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Is it enough with only one lane?
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Old July 30th, 2011, 06:35 PM   #4827
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Is it enough with only one lane?
Sure, there are several border stations nearby. There's a border crossing point at almost every corner :-)
And cars are usually not forced to stop.

Some years ago Switzerland decided to refuse joining some EU-regulations. The Germans asked Switzerland to join but yet they refused it. The other day the German government had the idea: Switzerland is not en EU member so that Basel-Wheil is an outer border of the EU which must be kept so safe as Poland - Belarus e.g. German police went there, every car forced to stop, passport please, open the car's trunk please, do you have anything for customs please, etc. Huge congestions were created and Swiss drivers were very angry.
It was before noon when Swiss government asked a pen for signing that EU regulation :-)

Another story: Two years ago I crossed the French-German(!) border at the Rhine bridge at St Louis - Weil (D-F border but less than 1km far from CH). There was temporary document check there. French, Swiss and German cars were allowed to go on but when the officer saw my Hungarian license plate I was forced to stop. Asked for passport, etc. I was very surprised since there were German and Swiss officers but not French ones!

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Old July 30th, 2011, 07:19 PM   #4828
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Borders are so curious... nothing better than closing one to force a negotiation...
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Old July 31st, 2011, 07:55 AM   #4829
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The Slovenia/Croatia border in Dobova/Savski Marof


https://picasaweb.google.com/wyche28...47807476663762
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https://picasaweb.google.com/wyche28...47827230651170
Savski Marof, Croatia

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Old July 31st, 2011, 05:23 PM   #4830
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One question: How they organized new borders and controls in new countries where roads and railways were not thought to have those controls?
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Old July 31st, 2011, 05:58 PM   #4831
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They built new buildings?
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Old July 31st, 2011, 06:25 PM   #4832
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And some new fences.
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Old July 31st, 2011, 09:06 PM   #4833
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But... what about those roads that could cross several times the same border?

And new borders on railways?. Where were they set?
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Old July 31st, 2011, 11:42 PM   #4834
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But... what about those roads that could cross several times the same border?

And new borders on railways?. Where were they set?
You mean for example that road from Aachen to Monschau? It strays onto Belgian soil for a few km, but the road remains German.

Or the one in Holland (N318???) near Sittard, and goes through Germany where it's called "Der Niederlandische Durchgangstrasse" until it crosses back into Holland again and carries on with the same road number. The stretch through Germany is fully German now, but I don't know if it has always been like that, as before they opened the Schengen borders up, you were unable to get on or off in Germany on that road. I wonder if the road had a German lay-out then, or maybe all fully Dutch even though being in Germany. Maybe Chris can answer this?
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Old August 1st, 2011, 02:23 AM   #4835
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Not exactly. I asked about roads that when they are in the same country, they are planned as the most easy to make... but after, the border can cross it several times.

I read something about the Belgian railway and I found it very interesting.


And about crossing borders for trips... in Spanish Pyrenees, the best way to make a journey of at least 200km is crossing to France and coming back the border again.
Reason?. The Pyrenees comes down quickly in France but not in Spain where the mountains keep on longer. So then, the nearest motorway in France is very near to the mountains and the border.
Long journey = cross the border, take the French motorway and cross the border again.

It is not usual (only used for towns besides the border, otherwise, no competitive) but... in one official magazine where they offer different places to visit and how to get there, one of them was indicated crossing France.
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Old August 1st, 2011, 02:54 AM   #4836
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But... what about those roads that could cross several times the same border?

And new borders on railways?. Where were they set?
In Slovenia and Croatia some new roads were built, but not many. In one case (by Kumrovec) I think the Croats even built a few km's of new railway.

Otherwise, they both made border check points on the last station in each country.
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Old August 1st, 2011, 03:39 AM   #4837
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Border between Arizona (USA), Sonora (Mexico) and Baja California (Mexico)





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Old August 1st, 2011, 09:20 AM   #4838
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Or the one in Holland (N318???) near Sittard, and goes through Germany where it's called "Der Niederlandische Durchgangstrasse" until it crosses back into Holland again and carries on with the same road number. The stretch through Germany is fully German now, but I don't know if it has always been like that, as before they opened the Schengen borders up, you were unable to get on or off in Germany on that road. I wonder if the road had a German lay-out then, or maybe all fully Dutch even though being in Germany. Maybe Chris can answer this?
It was the N274, and indeed used to be a Dutch road, where you could not leave it. All crossings with German roads were grade-separated without the possibility to switch roads. This area was Dutch until we gave it back in 1963. The road however, wasn't transferred to the state of Nordrhein-Westfalen until 2002, when they numbered it L410, and they constructed a few roundabouts.
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Old August 1st, 2011, 01:36 PM   #4839
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Last Wednesday I went vom Czechia to Germany via Poland. There were border controls on DK35 south of Walbrzych and on A18/A15 near Forst.
Police from Czechia, Poland and Germany was involved.
What was the reason for this trilateral controls?
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Old August 1st, 2011, 01:43 PM   #4840
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you never know sometime happend all for the rong reason I mean it might be drugs involved
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