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Old October 5th, 2011, 10:30 AM   #5261
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Old October 5th, 2011, 12:28 PM   #5262
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Is this A/HU new road, or it existed before Schengen era? If there was a road, was there a border crossing?
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Old October 5th, 2011, 02:15 PM   #5263
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I think this is a new road.
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Old October 5th, 2011, 02:49 PM   #5264
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It says 1922 on the border marker. Wouldn't it have been placed there, next to the road, when the border was officially established - presumaby in 1922?
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Old October 5th, 2011, 03:16 PM   #5265
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Considering the road has a 7.5 tonne weight limit, I think it's possible that this road dead-ended at either side of the border before 1990.
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Old October 5th, 2011, 03:17 PM   #5266
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According to Wikipedia (in hungarian), the border was opened in 2004 for traffic.

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Old October 5th, 2011, 05:26 PM   #5267
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In small roads between France and Spain you can notice that lines appear on yellow at France and white at Spain.

Have a look at Irun/Hendaye.
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Old October 5th, 2011, 07:37 PM   #5268
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This was before Liechtenstein had joined the Schengen area.
Liechtenstein hasn't joined the Schengen Area yet. It plans to join it later this year.
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Old October 5th, 2011, 07:58 PM   #5269
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Liechtenstein hasn't joined the Schengen Area yet. It plans to join it later this year.
Sorry, I mean Switzerland of course.

Correct is: I took the pic, before Switzerland joined Schengen. For this reason, there still were passport checks back then.
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Old October 5th, 2011, 08:08 PM   #5270
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As you wrote, that's the Austria-Liechtenstein border, not the Swiss border, so checks are still performed.
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Old October 5th, 2011, 08:23 PM   #5271
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As you wrote, that's the Austria-Liechtenstein border, not the Swiss border, so checks are still performed.
Yes, you're right, but since Switzerland joined, they just wave and let you pass. Before, I had always to show my ID.
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Old October 5th, 2011, 11:12 PM   #5272
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^ That's quite possible, since you can avoid the A-FL border through Switzerland anyway.
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Old October 5th, 2011, 11:21 PM   #5273
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The South African Nakop border post, on the border with Namibia (the Namibian side is called Ariamsvlei):-





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Old October 6th, 2011, 09:49 AM   #5274
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Yes, you're right, but since Switzerland joined, they just wave and let you pass. Before, I had always to show my ID.
I was not sure what to respond here since Wikipedia says FL would be expected to "join Schengen by the end of 2011". That's around now ...

At the Liechteinsteinian side of the border, there was a small sign stating "Bitte Pass für A-Zoll bereithalten". That was in April ...
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Old October 6th, 2011, 10:12 AM   #5275
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Since Liechtenstein and Switzerland have a customs union since 1923 and both aren´t part of the EU there still are custom controls.

I dont have any further information about Liechtenstein entering Schengen, but since it is impossible to enter Liechtenstein from a non-Schengen country and regarding the small size of Liechtenstein that could not be a severe problem...

Btw. the border between Liechtenstein and Switzerland is under video surveillance.
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Old October 6th, 2011, 03:29 PM   #5276
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Morocco/ Algeria (the algerian side)

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Old October 6th, 2011, 05:18 PM   #5277
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Two questions?

Which is last language on pannel?

How many border passes are opened today?
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Old October 6th, 2011, 05:29 PM   #5278
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Vielen dank für ihren besuch = German.
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Old October 6th, 2011, 05:32 PM   #5279
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off-topic... Ceuta and Melilla have football teams in the four range at Spain. One plays against teams from Western Andalucia and the other with teams from Eastern Andalucia.

In the Cup they try to make that the first rounds will be between the "minor teams", only one match (not in each stadium) and the winner goes to the following round.

Because minimizing costs, the first rounds are between teams in the same "area". They can be strongest or not so much, but the same "area" and journeys are cheaper.

Last year the draw made a Ceuta-Melilla in the Cup. I think it is the first official match they made in 15 years at least (or more).

I really do not know how the team of Melilla went to Ceuta. They could go by road crossing Morocco or going by plane and Helicopter via Malaga (for them are really cheap those travels).

It was Ceuta who won and passed to the following round. In that round there are two matches in each stadium and there are no "areas". It is a "entirely" draw and you can play against any team, doesn't matter the category, location, etc...

The draw signaled a Ceuta - FC Barcelona in the cup!!!

After asking, I correct myself because a mistake in the information.

These two teams plays every year because they are in the third division (Segunda B) which takes all teams in the south (there are four zones, 20 teams each one, for all the country).
Both, Ceuta and Melilla, play there and play between them every year as I said.

But as I read... it was the first time... in the Cup (not in the League).

I asked how to go and they said me that the faster way is a plane to Malaga, a bus to Algeciras and a ferry.

No helicopter from Malaga because there are only three daily and, even if discount, they are expensive (and maybe not enough for all the team).

And no direct road via Morocco because roads in the western Melilla are not good to go faster. Journey can be very long.


In fact... the faster trip will be a Melilla-Tanger (and later by bus) flight but they will need to prepare a charter flight and these teams do not have budget.

Teams on upper division (Segunda division where you can find some good teams which had last year a bad time and they are there...) do not use plane too much. Usually only for islands (Canary and Balearic) and very long journeys.

In the case of those teams, they have a 50% discount on planes because citizens of those cities.



And... as I said, in the first match this year, the team from Huelva had to go to La Coruńa. There was strike and finnaly they played. They had no tickets (end of august, impossible to buy) and they travel by bus.
I think 85% of journey was inside Portugal.
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How many border passes are opened today?
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