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Old January 23rd, 2012, 10:58 PM   #5621
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Are there, beside Český Těšín / Cieszyn and the one I cited, villages or cities across a border with the same or a similar name?
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Old January 23rd, 2012, 11:07 PM   #5622
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Was cz/sk border fenced all the way, during 90s?
No it was not fenced at all. Ther were also minor roads where there were no borders control, known only by local people and it was tolerated till the entrance to the EU. Then they had to put some slopes and it was like that till Schengen.
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Old January 23rd, 2012, 11:21 PM   #5623
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As per the normal, these photos are from the blog 'Histórias da Raia'

Esculqueira, Galicia (E)/Pinheiro Velho(P)

View towards Portugal (you can see Portuguese hunting signs)



View towards Spain



Lamadarcos (P) / Vilarello da Cota, Galicia (E)

An old smuggling route

you can see the border stone on the right:



Constantim / Moveros

Towards Portugal:



Towards Spain:



A reminder of former pre-1970s days:



A church on the border:



Rio de Onor (P) /Rio Onor (E)

Looking into Spain from Portugal:



There was a barrier in the form of a chain here from 1974 to 1990, apparently the chain was put up because the Portuguese government was worried about an invasion from a still Francoist Spain (although I don't think that it would stop an invasion )

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Old January 23rd, 2012, 11:39 PM   #5624
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Are there, beside Český Těšín / Cieszyn and the one I cited, villages or cities across a border with the same or a similar name?
Gornja Radgona (SLO) - Bad Radkersburg (A)

Bad Radkersburg is called Radgona in Slovenian, and Gornja Radgona (Upper Radgona) is called Oberradkersburg in German (not used any more though).


There's also Lendava (SLO) - Lendvadedes (H). I don't know what "dedes" means in Hungarian, but Lendava is in Hungarian called Lendva, so there must be some connection.


Also Rheinfelden (CH) - Rheinfelden (D).
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Old January 24th, 2012, 12:00 AM   #5625
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Are there, beside Český Těšín / Cieszyn and the one I cited, villages or cities across a border with the same or a similar name?
HR-BIH:
Slavonski Šamac - Bosanski Šamac (it is not Čamac as ni Google Maps, it is mistake)
Svilaj - Donji Svilaj
Slavonski Brod - Bosanski Brod
Stara Gradiška - Bosanska Gradiška
Hrvatska Dubica - Bosanska Dubica

Hrvatska Kostajnica - Bosanska Kostajnica
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Old January 24th, 2012, 12:11 AM   #5626
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Kreuzlingen (CH) - Konstanz (D)
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Old January 24th, 2012, 12:36 AM   #5627
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1993. Czech and Slovakia border: Lanžhot - Kúty.
D 2 highway, Morava river. The full customs control.

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Old January 24th, 2012, 12:49 AM   #5628
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What's the point of strict border controls between two regions that were the same country until the day before?
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Old January 24th, 2012, 12:54 AM   #5629
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What's the point of strict border controls between two regions that were the same country until the day before?
On 1 January 1993, Czechoslovakia peacefully split into the Czech Republic and Slovakia.

No border control was before 1993.
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Old January 24th, 2012, 01:02 AM   #5630
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And waht did I say?

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What's the point of strict border controls between two regions that were the same country until the day before?
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Old January 24th, 2012, 01:23 AM   #5631
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What's the point of strict border controls between two regions that were the same country until the day before?
I understand Slovenia-Croatia, but CZ and Slovakia could just continue with no control at the border IMO.

Btw, Nogales (USA) - Nogales (MEX), Laredo (USA) - Nuevo Laredo (MEX).
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Old January 24th, 2012, 01:32 AM   #5632
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And waht did I say?
Border in former Czech and Slovak Federal Republic, before 1993, was on map only; the border line was not appointed in terrain.
Customs control on highway D 2 was on car park, behind the bridge on Morava river, from 1993 to 2007.
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Old January 24th, 2012, 08:59 AM   #5633
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I understand Slovenia-Croatia, but CZ and Slovakia could just continue with no control at the border IMO.

Btw, Nogales (USA) - Nogales (MEX), Laredo (USA) - Nuevo Laredo (MEX).
Also, Calexico, California, USA/Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico and Sault Sainte Marie, Michigan, USA/Sault Sainte Marie, Ontario, Canada.

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Old January 24th, 2012, 10:11 AM   #5634
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I understand Slovenia-Croatia, but CZ and Slovakia could just continue with no control at the border IMO.

Btw, Nogales (USA) - Nogales (MEX), Laredo (USA) - Nuevo Laredo (MEX).
Well there were the free movement of people and working between CZ and SK.
You could pas eith an ID if you were one of 2 nationals.
Thee was alo custom union, but only by name as you had custom controls between them and limitetation in importing things from one country to the other.

Tat bordr wasnt bad at all, that picture was an extreme. First years there were 2 stops at th boder, one on CZ and another on SK side. then around the year 1999/2000 both countries built new border infrastructure and then there was one control point at the border, with both police officers checking your passport, as in the first booth there was one control and on the other there was the second, a distance of few meters between them.
At the wost you stoo at the border for 30 minutes.
Few months before they entered EU there were huge trucks´ queues as there were few custom officers and they didn´t really work, knowing they were useful only till both countries joined EU.
I would say that slovak officers were a little bit stricter than the czech ones.
I had worse xperience at polish bordrs, usually polish officers taking time in checking your passport and bothering you with the green card.
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Old January 24th, 2012, 11:04 AM   #5635
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Border in former Czech and Slovak Federal Republic, before 1993, was on map only; the border line was not appointed in terrain.
That's obvious, Czechia and Slovakia were the same state, so there could not be an international border.
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Old January 24th, 2012, 12:40 PM   #5636
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Are there, beside Český Těšín / Cieszyn and the one I cited, villages or cities across a border with the same or a similar name?
Valga (EST) - Valka (LV)
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Old January 24th, 2012, 01:10 PM   #5637
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The border control establishment between CZ and SK at 1993 was more for the feeling of a sovereign state creation then for the real deeds at first.

There is neverthless one good reason for strict border controls right overnight. And that is the currency split. In both countries were used the same banknotes at first, the old banknotes were marked by a stamp to distinguish them in both countries. Because slovakian currency was expected and started to devaluate to the czech currency, you could make a good profit taking not stamped Czechoslovakian banknotes from SK and let them stamp in CZ.

This problem would be also faced by Greece if any of the nonsence ideas about reintroducing drachma would come true. (it is funny that no one ever mentions that the Greeks debt would still be denominated in euros, thus introducing drachma would only make its repayment more complicated for Greeks.)
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Old January 24th, 2012, 01:33 PM   #5638
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Yes, but if Greece goes bankrupt, it does not have to pay its debts anymore.
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Old January 24th, 2012, 01:54 PM   #5639
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Komárom (H) - Komárno (SK) (Révkomárom in Hungarian)

Balassagyarmat (H) - Slovenské Ďarmoty (SK) (Tótgyarmat in Hungarian, was part of Balassagyarmat until 1920)

Ráróspuszta (H) - Rároš (SK) (new bridge between them was inaugurated in 2011)

Sátoraljaújhely (H) - Slovenské Nové Mesto (SK) (Újhely in Hungarian, was part of Sátoraljaújhely)

Kelebia (H) - Kelebija (SRB) (actually the road border is Tompa (H)-Kelebija (SRB) while the railroad border is Kelebia (H)-Subotica (SRB), to make things confusing )

Veľké Slemence (SK) - Mali Selmenci (UA) (Szelmenc in Hungarian, the village was divided between Czechslovakia and the Soviet Union in 1946)

Bocicoiu Mare (RO) - Velykyy Bychkiv (UA) (used to be one settlement)

Tyachiv (UA) - Teceu Mic (RO) (Técső in Hungarian, used to be on settlement, the bridge between them was bombed down during WW2, and was not rebuilt since)
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Old January 24th, 2012, 04:49 PM   #5640
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Kúty, mid 90s. We travelled in a group, by a coach. Czech custom officer came, counted us (43 people), counted the mineral waters in the pack box and said we had two much mineral waters, only one liter per capita (or something similar) is allowed and took two or three glasses. (Actually I think he took it for himself...).
Not typically what I could call a "not bad" type of custom control :-)
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