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Old May 11th, 2012, 01:01 PM   #6021
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Nope, the road gets reduced to one lane and then you drive actually through the station at low speed. Trucks pass on an bypass road on the outside of the station.

Also at the border station near Tournai you pass at low speed on the outside of the station and at the one near Mons you drive straight through the station like in most of the old border station on highways and normal roads.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 02:02 PM   #6022
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The one at Tournai is gone now, they have removed all the buildings. I cross that border regularly. The one at Rekkem I don´t remember, even though I went through there just before Christmas.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 03:35 PM   #6023
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You asked for pics of non-Schengen border crossings... so here it is the border crossing between Romania and Serbia at Stamora Moravita / Vrsac (map):

Comming from Romania...



Romanian checkpoint:



Between the 2 checkpoints there is this sign:



Serbian checkpoint:



Serbian speed limits:



I've recorded on camera the border crossing and I will publish it here after I will have time to edit the video.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 10:46 PM   #6024
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A very interesting article in Paris Match magazine about the new bridge on the international border between France and Brazil. The title of the article, which literally means "Man walked from France to Brazil", is a funny wink at the famous comic-strip album On a marché sur la Lune (literally "Man walked on the Moon", known in English as Explorers on the Moon, and in Portuguese as Explorando a Lua).

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In the article we learn several interesting things, such as the new immigration route that has appeared from Haiti to France via Panama, Peru, then down the Amazone River and on to the bridge where Haitian immigrants ask the French border police for asylum in France. Apparently there are now about 1,500 Haitians near the bridge in Brazil, waiting to cross the bridge and ask for asylum in France. The article also explains how the bridge has solidified a border that until then was quite blurry in the mind of the local people, with the people in the Brazilian town of Oiapoque complaining about new restrictions and visas to reach the French shore, whereas in the past they could travel almost freely to the French shore. The article also reflects on the paranoia in French Guiana where people imagine that 180 million poor Brazilians are going to swarm French Guiana, while the Brazilian authorities in Oiapoque tell the journalist that the Brazilians these days are more likely to be affluent people flying to Paris and shopping in the ritzy Faubourg St Honoré than poor people trying to cross the French Guianese border.

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On a marché de la France au Brésil

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14 janvier 2012

Au bout de la Guyane, loin de tout, un pont magnifique relie deux forêts désertes en attendant... d’improbables voyageurs.



Lorsqu’il se découpe enfin dans la brume et les vapeurs chaudes, coque élégante en suspension entre deux mondes, on songe d’emblée à « Fitzcarraldo ». A ces chimères dont l’Amazonie a toujours été grande pourvoyeuse et qui ne s’apprécient qu’à l’aune de leur démesure et de leur vanité. Le pont sur l’Oyapock, qui unit en un saisissant raccourci la France et le Brésil, appartient à ces épopées, à ces conquêtes aussi inutiles qu’indispensables. « Concrètement, humainement, économiquement, ce pont ne servira à rien », m’a prévenu, au départ de Cayenne, le chercheur Gérard Police, Guyanais depuis plus de trente ans et docteur en études brésiliennes. « Mais c’est un super outil diplomatique et géopolitique, un monument presque totémique destiné à être inauguré et célébré. »

L’inauguration, c’est justement là que le bât blesse. Il y a belle lurette que l’ouvrage proprement dit est terminé : le samedi 28 mai 2011, vers 22 h 30, les ouvriers de l’entreprise brésilienne Egesa, chargée de sa construction, ont opéré sans grand battage la jonction historique entre les deux tronçons du tablier. Pourtant, lors de sa prochaine visite en Guyane, le 21 janvier, Nicolas Sarkozy ne coupera pas, comme il en avait émis le vœu, le ruban ouvrant le passage vers un pays avec lequel nous partageons curieusement la plus longue frontière terrestre, plus de 700 kilomètres. La raison : pour qu’un pont fasse office de pont, encore faut-il qu’il soit raccordé à des routes dignes de ce nom. Or, si un ruban asphalté ondule bien sur les 200 kilomètres de forêt amazonienne entre Cayenne et Saint-Georges-de-l’Oyapock, notre ville frontière, côté Brésil, en revanche, la route menant à Macapa, seule ville d’importance, distante de 600 kilomètres, n’est sur une large portion qu’une simple piste mettant au supplice les dos comme les amortisseurs. « On peut comprendre que nos amis brésiliens aient souhaité n’inaugurer le pont que lorsqu’ils seront prêts, m’a confirmé Denis Labbé, le préfet de Guyane. D’après ce qu’ils m’ont dit, ils ont rencontré des problèmes de propriété foncière pour faire passer la route. Et maintenant que la saison des pluies a débuté, les travaux ne pourront démarrer qu’en juin. » En attendant une inauguration sans cesse reportée – le préfet évoque désormais le dernier trimestre 2012 –, la tentation est donc grande de prendre les devants. Et, sans la moindre modestie, de procéder soi-même à l’enjambement historique. Qui n’a, un jour, rêvé de faire le premier pas, de relier symboliquement la France et le séduisant Brésil, la vieille Europe et la fringante Amérique du Sud ?

On imagine repousser les frontières de l’imaginaire, entrer de plain-pied dans l’onirisme et, pourquoi pas, rencontrer des Indiens réducteurs de têtes : en guise de rite de passage, ce sont les policiers de la Police de l’air et des frontières (PAF), en tenue réglementaire, qui forment le comité d’accueil. Chaleureux, au demeurant. Même si le pont n’est pas ouvert à la circulation, le lieutenant Laurent Destenesse et le major Antoine Drouault ont reçu l’ordre, l’an dernier, d’abandonner les anciens bâtiments de Saint-Georges-de-l’Oyapock, la petite ville frontalière située à 6 kilomètres. Ils ont emménagé le 22 décembre avec leurs effectifs – 62 hommes et femmes, chiffre doublé en un an – dans les locaux construits à l’entrée de la plateforme. Ils y disposent d’un point de vue privilégié sur l’ouvrage, un pont à haubans de 378 mètres de long, suspendu entre deux pylônes culminant à 83 mètres. Une dizaine d’aubettes par lesquelles ne transite aucun porteur de visa, en gardent l’accès. Pour l’heure, c’est donc Fifille, une chienne bâtarde ayant adopté les policiers dès leur arrivée, qui en assure une surveillance débonnaire, sous l’œil intrigué de quelques paresseux et de serpents de passage. Il est probable que cette faune incontrôlable constituera longtemps l’essentiel du trafic. Car ce pont, dont la construction fut décidée en novembre 1997 lors d’une rencontre à Saint-Georges entre le président Chirac et son homologue Fernando Cardoso, a pour particularité de relier deux remarquables culs-de-sac : l’Etat d’Amapa, coupé par le delta de l’Amazone et qu’aucune route ne relie au reste du Brésil est au moins aussi éloignée des préoccupations de Brasilia que la Guyane de Paris. Les deux régions présentant en outre un profil parfaitement identique, on imagine mal une noria de camions transporter à grands frais de l’une ce qui fait sa principale richesse, le bois, que l’autre ne manquerait pas de lui renvoyer dès le lendemain, pour un coût tout aussi exorbitant.

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http://www.parismatch.com/Actu-Match...Bresil-370627/
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Old May 11th, 2012, 10:46 PM   #6025
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Regarding the bridge proper, the article also tells us that it is fully completed, but that it sits idle because the Brazilian authorities have, to put it diplomatically, not been as diligent as the French authorities in building the access road to the bridge on their side of the border. Apparently they didn't properly evaluate the ownership of the land on their side of the border, so the building of the access road has been delayed, whereas on the French side the access road was completed already 2 years ago. The Brazilian should finally start building the access road this year after the end of the rainy season. The bridge is now scheduled to be opened to traffic in the last quarter of 2012, if the Brazilian access road is completed by then.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 10:47 PM   #6026
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An interesting Brazilian video report which shows the bridge and the strikingly different situation on both sides of the border. For all the talks of an emerging Brazil, the contrast between First World and developping world is still quite crude around the bridge. At least that's what the Brazilian journalists focuss on here.

In the beginning of the video until 0:55 you can see the 516 km of road from Macapá (the capital of the Brazilian state of Amapá) to Oiapoque on the French border. The road is still not fully paved, but they are working on it as you can see in the video.

Then from 0:55 to 1:14 you can see the access road to the bridge which is still a dirt track. Then at 1:14 they arrive at the bridge proper.

At 2:59 they enter French territory (French side of the bridge).

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Old May 12th, 2012, 12:33 PM   #6027
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Long live Schengen.

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Old May 12th, 2012, 06:02 PM   #6028
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^ You mean EU. Ive seen trucks lining up the right lane from the Svinesund toll station (about 3km) - and we are in schengen.

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Old May 12th, 2012, 09:39 PM   #6029
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^ You mean EU. Ive seen trucks lining up the right lane from the Svinesund toll station (about 3km) - and we are in schengen.
There is you answer.

I do have seen trucks lined up at EU borders in the Schengen area but that is because in some countries they are not allowed to drive before and afther certain hours....

Btw if you take the A13/E313 towards Antwerp you can find a 50km line of only trucks in the slow lane... There are just so many trucks driving on that highway...
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Old May 13th, 2012, 12:15 AM   #6030
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Speaking of Schengen?
Entering Germany coming from Schengen (L):

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Old May 13th, 2012, 12:37 AM   #6031
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lol
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Old May 13th, 2012, 09:27 AM   #6032
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Speaking of Schengen?
Entering Germany coming from Schengen (L):
So you were in Schengen which is in Schengen, right?
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lol good one
Shouldnt they change the name to something more in common with european countries? what do you think?
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Old May 13th, 2012, 10:14 AM   #6034
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Entering Germany coming from Schengen (L):
There is a video from me which is from the (D)-(L)-Border near Schengen at the Motorway A8.de / A13.lu

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^ You mean EU. Ive seen trucks lining up the right lane from the Svinesund toll station (about 3km) - and we are in schengen.
It is rather a common misconception that the Schengen area would have something to do with the customs regulations.

There are several overlapping international treaties:

- The Schengen agreement: no routine passport controls within the area
- The European Customs Union: no duties at the internal borders
- The European VAT Area: the European system for value added taxes
- The European Economic Area: The extension to the EU internal market
- The Nordic Passport Union: Similar to the Schengen agreement but older and more liberal

Norway is a the member of the European Customs Union. Therefore, the border at Svinesund is the external border to the Customs Union, and the customs declarations apply to both directions.

The passenger cars are not exempt from the customs controls, but those take place seldom. If I recall, I have not been stopped at the Finnish-Norwegian border since about 1985.
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The passenger cars are not exempt from the customs controls, but those take place seldom. If I recall, I have not been stopped at the Finnish-Norwegian border since about 1985.
Could you just pack the boot of your car full of alcohol in Sweden (Finland) and just carry it over to Norway with no serious risk of getting caught?
Is this a widespread practice with "shopping tourists" from Norway?
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Could you just pack the boot of your car full of alcohol in Sweden (Finland) and just carry it over to Norway with no serious risk of getting caught?
Is this a widespread practice with "shopping tourists" from Norway?
I do not know how keen the Norwegian customs authorities are to catch the Norwegian redidents transporting booze. Anyway, buying cheap goods in Finland and Sweden is a common hobby.

The northernmost alcohol sales point in the EU lies in a tiny Finnish village Nuorgam at the Norwegian border. More than 90% of the stuff is sold to Norwegians. Because of that shop, the sales of alcohol in the municipality of Utsjoki is 53 litres absolute alcohol per inhabitant per year while the country average being 8 litres. This indicates the risk to be caugh being rather low.

After opening the shop in Nuorgam, the sales in the Vinmonopolet alcohol shop in Vadsø at the Norwegian side dropped by 35%.
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Norwegians buy their booze in Sweden, the Swedish in Denmark, and the Danish in Germany...
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Norwegians buy their booze in Sweden, the Swedish in Denmark, and the Danish in Germany...
we could go on. The germans in Czech Republic or Poland, the Czechs in Slovakia, Polish in Belarus, Slovaks in Ukraine...

I just dont think that the Russians go to Japan to buy there sake . It may be though that the Japanese go to USA for cheaper alcohol... lol
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Everyone overhere buys fuel, cigs and booze in Luxemburg
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