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Old May 29th, 2012, 01:17 AM   #6221
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bloody hell......... for sure not war???
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Old May 29th, 2012, 06:04 PM   #6222
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bloody hell......... for sure not war???


I think it would be pretty big news if war broke out between two EU and NATO members!!
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Old May 29th, 2012, 07:32 PM   #6223
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Have a look to a Spanish thread that was opened a long time ago and now it has a poll. The majority answers are "it means few to me" or "they are not my business"


And we should talk about border crossings...
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Old May 29th, 2012, 08:14 PM   #6224
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We are. We are talking about a foreign police force crossing the border into British waters.
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Old May 29th, 2012, 09:05 PM   #6225
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Well... you know my position about the Gibraltar thing.
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Old May 29th, 2012, 09:18 PM   #6226
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Trespassing territorial waters with armed forces (without the approval of the sovereign state) is a violation of the UNCLOS treaty.
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Old May 29th, 2012, 10:01 PM   #6227
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So get ready for war about a useless piece of rock. You seemed willing about 10 years ago on that Perejil incident...
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Old May 29th, 2012, 10:22 PM   #6228
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Useless piece of rock??? Have you been there??? Gibraltar is great!
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Old May 29th, 2012, 10:31 PM   #6229
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Useless piece of rock??? Have you been there??? Gibraltar is great!


Yes I've been there. I guess it's useful... for macaques
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Old May 29th, 2012, 10:59 PM   #6230
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Trespassing territorial waters with armed forces (without the approval of the sovereign state) is a violation of the UNCLOS treaty.


Take a read to Utrech treaty. They talk about the country land and the entrance to the harbour. Harbour has been enlarged too many since then. They say nothing about waters.

Furthermore... building in a neutral area it is also a violation of a treaty, as well as having the customs in the other side of the neutral area.

Do you know which area is the neutral one, so then shared by UK and Spain?

It is a topic that really it doesn't worth to me... but sometimes a take a look to documents and I think there is too many unknoledgment.

(that appart of the Spanish government possitions and measures in this fact, which I do not approve)


Hint: Open Google Earth and look the yellow border of Gibraltar and the red one. The territory between those lines is the neutral zone, binational at all according to the Utrech treaty and border customs should be southern there.
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Old May 30th, 2012, 12:47 AM   #6231
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I understand the restriction on bringing fruits in Australia from another country, but I can't understand why you can't go with bananas from one Australian state to another one.
the same here in Mexico, you cant travel to my state, Sinaloa, if you bring fruits and vegetables from other states!
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Old May 30th, 2012, 01:19 AM   #6232
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in Nayarit. Nayarit- Jalisco Border

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in Baja California Sur. BCS- Baja California border

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in Chiapas, Chiapas- Oaxaca Border
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Old May 30th, 2012, 01:20 AM   #6233
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in Nayarit. Nayarit- Jalisco Border

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in Baja California Sur. BCS- Baja California border

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in Chiapas, Chiapas- Oaxaca Border
also there are state police checkpoints in these borders
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Old May 30th, 2012, 02:03 AM   #6234
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Just to let you know, the Paso Cristo Redentor in Mendoza was closed today. Yes, in may, and due to a snow storm. Stucked trucks season has just began.
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Old May 30th, 2012, 03:36 AM   #6235
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Just to let you know, the Paso Cristo Redentor in Mendoza was closed today. Yes, in may, and due to a snow storm. Stucked trucks season has just began.
Is there any other paved road suitable for truck traffic between Santiago and Buenos Aires?
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Old May 30th, 2012, 06:55 AM   #6236
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the same here in Mexico, you cant travel to my state, Sinaloa, if you bring fruits and vegetables from other states!
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There are similar stations on the roads leading into California here in the USA.

Aren't there similar stations between some of the states in Australia, too?

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Old May 30th, 2012, 06:57 AM   #6237
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Yes, read the discussion from bogdymol's old post on.
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Old May 30th, 2012, 07:11 AM   #6238
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Just to let you know, the Paso Cristo Redentor in Mendoza was closed today. Yes, in may, and due to a snow storm. Stucked trucks season has just began.
where is located the area where it was cancelled one step of last Dakar in January (let's remember than January is full summer...)
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Old May 30th, 2012, 11:27 AM   #6239
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What's the point of checks between different Mexican states? Have they different taxes for goods? Are also passenger cars stopped?
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Old June 3rd, 2012, 12:25 AM   #6240
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where is located the area where it was cancelled one step of last Dakar in January (let's remember than January is full summer...)
The 6th step of the last Dakar race, between Fiambálá, Argentina, and Copiapó, Chile. This leg of the race, that crosses the Andes through the Paso San Francisco, was cancelled due to a snow and rain storm at the top of the moutains. Here the mountains are very high, and this kind of storms are really dangerous.

So it waas supposed to be:


But it was like this:


This mountain pass lies about 600 to 800 km north of the Paso Cristo Redentor. I'll post some pictures.
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