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Old August 28th, 2012, 07:11 PM   #6441
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France - Germany E54







Unused border's booth on the right hand side.






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Old August 28th, 2012, 08:16 PM   #6442
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Being aware I will be passing close to Lux, I would not refuel until I get there even if Belgians, French, Dutch or Germans offered a free breakfast or so, on their petrol station.
Still, it's good to know if you're leaving Liège and don't have enough in the tank to make it to Luxembourg that you should fill up....
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Old August 28th, 2012, 08:28 PM   #6443
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There is a gas station immediately south of Liège, but nothing after that for about 120 kilometers. While 120 km / 75 miles without services may not sound like a whole lot for Americans living in the west, it's considered a significant distance in Europe. The Dutch motorist association ANWB has a record of over 60 Dutch who ran out of gas along E25 in 2011. Of course many of them are too cheap to gas up in Belgium or the Netherlands, but want to refuel in Luxembourg.
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Old August 28th, 2012, 08:30 PM   #6444
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That's amazing. I wouldn't expect 75 miles between gas stations in most of North America, let alone the heart of western Europe.
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Old August 28th, 2012, 08:35 PM   #6445
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That's amazing. I wouldn't expect 75 miles between gas stations in most of North America, let alone the heart of western Europe.
Italian Autostrada A25 only has 2 service stations, one at the beginning and the other one at the end, separated by 90 km / 56 miles.
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Old August 28th, 2012, 08:50 PM   #6446
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A quirk, as you may know, of American toll-free Interstates is they don't have service areas along them; just rest areas (with toilets, picnic areas and so on, but nothing more commercial than a vending machine). This is because when Congress was considering the funding for the Interstate system, there was some concern about small towns that were commercially dependent on through traffic, so Congress actually prohibited businesses on the Interstates. (Interstates that are toll roads, and other toll roads, do normally have service areas like Europeans are used to.)

The result of this is that you have to get off the Interstate to buy gas or food or whatever - since there are no tolls, it doesn't matter - but you'll find something at most exits. (Not the small towns Congress was concerned about 50-odd years ago, ironically, but right at the exits.) Often multiple stations, which keeps prices down. So in a place as densely populated as Belgium, I'd expect not to have to go more than about ten miles (16 km) without finding a gas station.
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The Ardennes are quite sparsely populated. Bastogne has 15,000 inhabitants, but most other places along E25 are small villages.

The system of off-motorway services is also widely used in Germany (Autohöfe) and Scandinavia. Often these places offer better services (especially geared towards truckers) and sometimes cheaper fuel.
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Old August 28th, 2012, 10:09 PM   #6448
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One would still think the locals need to fill up somewhere....

Anyhow, is Google Maps wrong about where the border is? Looks here as if all those gas stations are on Belgian territory: https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&l...04115&t=h&z=18
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Google Maps is not entirely precise when it comes to borders.
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I wonder if 'AIDS' is always used in Brazil instead of 'SIDA'.
A late reply - but yes. Only ever heard of SIDA when I went to Portugal for a visit!
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Old August 29th, 2012, 09:38 AM   #6451
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One would still think the locals need to fill up somewhere....

Anyhow, is Google Maps wrong about where the border is? Looks here as if all those gas stations are on Belgian territory: https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&l...04115&t=h&z=18
Openstreetmap is better, go to http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49...om=17&layers=M
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Old August 29th, 2012, 04:05 PM   #6452
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German speed limit sign in France? Or French direction sign in Germany?
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German speed limit sign in France? Or French direction sign in Germany?
It's a German speed limit sign in France. The actual state line is a few hundred meters ahead on the international bridge over the Rhine, but there's an Autobahn junction immediately after the bridge, leaving too little space to post the border speed limit sign.
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Old August 29th, 2012, 06:18 PM   #6454
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Old French sign.
I love it when a sign announces an exit (or in this case an interchange) in a neighbouring country. Doesn't happen enough though.
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Old August 29th, 2012, 08:03 PM   #6455
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Weil am Rhein - Saint Louis(Huningue) - Basel (D)(F)(CH)

Next one is pretty interesting. Weil am Rhein borders to both Switzerland and France. Saint Louis on opposite Rhein's bank borders to Germany and Switzerland and both towns are part of the Basel aglomeration.





Approaching main border crossing between Weil and Basel.


Has 60 been applied for a reason?Yes it has, we will see soon why.




Yeah, Dutch tourist are to blame for the traffic jam here


Well, let's better find another way to get to Basel.




Here we are!


Over the Rhein.






Alsace.












Just about in Switzerland.




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Old August 30th, 2012, 12:01 AM   #6456
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A1 (CH) -> A41 (F) border crossing at Geneva
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2. Swiss booths


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4. French booths
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Old August 30th, 2012, 12:50 AM   #6457
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It's interesting the signal where they remember that motorways are indicated in green/blue depending on country
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Old August 30th, 2012, 01:23 AM   #6458
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Els Limits (E) N-II main road -> Le Perthus (F), D-900 road crossing
August 2012

There were no controls whatsoever, the queue originated in Le Perthus.

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Old August 30th, 2012, 11:06 AM   #6459
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The problem is Els Limits / Le Perthus is a full street 1x1 and a lot of shops in the sides... so queues are for crossing two towns with a high activity.

In one old post I wrote about the exact points where the border goes. There is one part looking north where in the left you will find post, pharmacies and French banks and in the right side you will find a lot of supermarkets with any goods with less taxes...
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Old August 30th, 2012, 10:26 PM   #6460
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Ushok Pass - Ukraine.

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