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Old August 31st, 2012, 04:09 AM   #6461
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Rivera (Uruguay)<<<<<<<<<< >>>>>>>>>>>>>Santana do Livramento (Brazil)



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Old August 31st, 2012, 04:47 AM   #6462
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Chuy ( Uruguay ) - Chui (Brazil)

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Old August 31st, 2012, 10:18 AM   #6463
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I have seen pictures of that point where someone prepares a single point of shopping just in the middle of the two countries (let's ask for currency used...)
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Old August 31st, 2012, 11:51 AM   #6464
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Is there free moving between Uruguay and Brazil?
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Old August 31st, 2012, 07:13 PM   #6465
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I have seen pictures of that point where someone prepares a single point of shopping just in the middle of the two countries (let's ask for currency used...)
hahaha

I guess both currency, peso and real.
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Old August 31st, 2012, 07:22 PM   #6466
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Is there free moving between Uruguay and Brazil?
Citizens of all countries of MERCOSUR, born or naturalized for at least five years, have a simplified process for obtaining temporary residence for up to two years in another country, with the requirements valid passport, birth certificate, negative cerificate antecedents criminal.

Equally simple, no tangled bureaucracies, temporary residence can turn into permanent residence with the mere evidence of licit livelihoods to support themselves and family.

Mercosul= Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay.

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Old August 31st, 2012, 08:07 PM   #6467
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I have read from various experiences from travel blogs etc that the border controls between some countries can be quite easy to evade! Even the border between the United States and Canada apparently has some areas that are easy to cross illegally! (Not that I would ever attempt it of course! )
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Old August 31st, 2012, 08:09 PM   #6468
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US-Canada border is 9000 km long. It's absolutely impossible to patrol.
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Old August 31st, 2012, 08:15 PM   #6469
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US-Canada border is 9000 km long. It's absolutely impossible to patrol.
But they have one massive fence spanning across the US-Mexico border! And they told me that the United States is the strictest country in the entire world when it comes to border patrol....
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Old August 31st, 2012, 08:17 PM   #6470
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But they have one massive fence spanning across the US-Mexico border! And they told me that the United States is the strictest country in the entire world when it comes to border patrol....
Us-Mexico border is "only" 3000 km and not all of it is fenced and guarded. Besides, it's in a much friendlier environment than freezing-cold North.
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Old August 31st, 2012, 09:01 PM   #6471
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I have read from various experiences from travel blogs etc that the border controls between some countries can be quite easy to evade! Even the border between the United States and Canada apparently has some areas that are easy to cross illegally! (Not that I would ever attempt it of course! )
One can cross anywhere in Saskatchewan/Alberta/Manitoba into the U.S. with no fence, no patrol, away from road crossings and no one would notice. There are built up areas in Northern Washington State and B.C. where the U.S. homes back yards are seperated from Canada by only a ditch. I always wonder what happens when the children lose a ball to the Canadian side. Do they simply walk over and grab it or is there a more complicated process
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Old August 31st, 2012, 09:19 PM   #6472
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There are built up areas in Northern Washington State and B.C. where the U.S. homes back yards are seperated from Canada by only a ditch. I always wonder what happens when the children lose a ball to the Canadian side. Do they simply walk over and grab it or is there a more complicated process
It's not North and South Korea
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Old August 31st, 2012, 10:42 PM   #6473
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One can cross anywhere in Saskatchewan/Alberta/Manitoba into the U.S. with no fence, no patrol, away from road crossings and no one would notice. There are built up areas in Northern Washington State and B.C. where the U.S. homes back yards are seperated from Canada by only a ditch. I always wonder what happens when the children lose a ball to the Canadian side. Do they simply walk over and grab it or is there a more complicated process
I can just imagine poking one finger through the fence in my back yard and then hearing a sound over a megaphone shouting "THIS IS THE CANADIAN BORDER AUTHORITY! YOU ARE TRESPASSING IN OUR COUNTRY! GO BACK TO YOUR SIDE NOW! WE ARE ARMED AND WILL NOT HESITATE TO USE FORCE TO SEND YOU BACK IF NECESSARY!"
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Old August 31st, 2012, 11:12 PM   #6474
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Citizens of all countries of MERCOSUR, born or naturalized for at least five years, have a simplified process for obtaining temporary residence for up to two years in another country, with the requirements valid passport, birth certificate, negative cerificate antecedents criminal.

Equally simple, no tangled bureaucracies, temporary residence can turn into permanent residence with the mere evidence of licit livelihoods to support themselves and family.

Mercosul= Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay.
What about in day-to-day life along the border? Do you need to go through any formalities to cross the street in Chuy/Chui?
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Old August 31st, 2012, 11:20 PM   #6475
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One can cross anywhere in Saskatchewan/Alberta/Manitoba into the U.S. with no fence, no patrol, away from road crossings and no one would notice....
Not to mention mountain areas....
Or all that wetland along the Minnesota/Ontario border.

I think there's sort of an honor system ("honour," on the other side): you're probably supposed to report to a customs post if you cross away from one, but I have no idea if that's more obeyed and enforced than speed limits.
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Old September 1st, 2012, 12:28 AM   #6476
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Do you need to go through any formalities to cross the street in Chuy/Chui?
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Old September 1st, 2012, 04:15 AM   #6477
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What about in day-to-day life along the border? Do you need to go through any formalities to cross the street in Chuy/Chui?
At paved roads going out of the city there are some police controls, but not on the city itself or secondary roads. Both currencies are usually acepted on any shop of the city regardless of on which country its the shop actually located.

Both Uruguay and Brazil, as well as Brazil and Argentina have a couple of "binational cities" (urban area lies half in one country half on the other) on which border controls are not really enforced.
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Old September 1st, 2012, 04:32 AM   #6478
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What about in day-to-day life along the border? Do you need to go through any formalities to cross the street in Chuy/Chui?
Chuy/Chui are located within a border zone that encompasses the city and you can freely cross the street back and forth all you want and shop on both sides of the international border where there are no border controls. The border crossings are located, on the Uruguayan side, about a mile south from the actual border line on Route 9, and, on the Brazilian side, about a mile and a half north from the border line on BR 471. On the west, there is an Uruguayan border crossing at Fortin de San Miguel on Route 19, which parallels the border about 20 feet south of it and, on the east, there is another Uruguayan crossing just south of the bridge over Arroyo Chuy/Arroio Chui in the area of Barra de Chuy/Barra do Chui.

If you enter the border zone, you'll have to clear customs when you leave it, even if you never actually crossed the border line. For example, if you drive from La Coronilla (UY) to 18 de Julio (UY) or viceversa, you'll have to pass throrough the Uruguayan border crossings even if you never leave Uruguay. Likewise, if you go from Santa Vittoria de Palmar (BR) to Chui (BR) you'll have to go through the Brazilian border crossing even if you never leave Brazil.

There is also another Uruguayan border crossing at La Coronilla (UY) on Route 9 and Route 14, 16.5 miles from the actual border.

This border zone system would avoid lots of inconvenience to the residents of the Vermont (USA)-Quebec (Canada) area who have to go though border formalities to cross the center line of CANUSA Avenue.

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Old September 2nd, 2012, 08:16 PM   #6479
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Border of Argentina and Uruguay near Fray Bentos


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