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Old September 16th, 2012, 01:44 AM   #6521
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Back to boring Schengen border crossings:

Austria-Italy - http://goo.gl/maps/SX7zb

Entering Italy

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AUT_B100 - AUT/ITA border by cinxxx, on Flickr

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And back to Austria

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AUT_B100 - AUT/ITA border by cinxxx, on Flickr

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Old September 16th, 2012, 01:47 AM   #6522
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Austria usually write the name in English in these signals instead of German or bilingual?
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Old September 16th, 2012, 01:49 AM   #6523
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Two more entries from Austria to Germany (unfortunately pictures are kind of bad, low light):

Kufstein to Kiefersfelden --> http://goo.gl/maps/5rGLY
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AUT_B171 - entering Germany in Kiefersfelden by cinxxx, on Flickr

AUT_L209 - DE_RO1 --> http://goo.gl/maps/DuhHE
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AUT_L209 - entering Germany in Windshausen by cinxxx, on Flickr
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Old September 16th, 2012, 01:53 AM   #6524
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Austria usually write the name in English in these signals instead of German or bilingual?
Actually it could be Italian and not English, maybe someone knows about this.
It's the first time I see it not written "Bundesrepublik Österreich".

But, unfortunately not visible in the picture, on the sign it was written before "Bundesrepublik Österreich", still visible from close-up, with grey color, I think it was erased, and written on top "Austria".
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Old September 16th, 2012, 02:19 PM   #6525
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Actually it could be Italian and not English, maybe someone knows about this.
It's the first time I see it not written "Bundesrepublik Österreich".

But, unfortunately not visible in the picture, on the sign it was written before "Bundesrepublik Österreich", still visible from close-up, with grey color, I think it was erased, and written on top "Austria".
There is no "Bundesrepublik Österreich" but "Republik Österreich", although Austrian police is called "Bundespolizei"...
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Old September 16th, 2012, 02:36 PM   #6526
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Old September 16th, 2012, 02:46 PM   #6527
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You are right.
I got confused with Budesrepublik Deutschland.
But on the sign I posted, I remember clearly formerly being written Republik Österreich but barely visible, only from up close.
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Old September 16th, 2012, 05:25 PM   #6528
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Back to boring Schengen border crossings:

Austria-Italy - http://goo.gl/maps/SX7zb

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AUT_B100 - AUT/ITA border by cinxxx, on Flickr
the same sign i can´t count how often i crossed this border

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Old September 16th, 2012, 05:29 PM   #6529
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And another one I took when entering Austria from German B21 near Unken

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Old September 16th, 2012, 05:49 PM   #6530
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you can cross this border also via the steinpass
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Old September 16th, 2012, 06:08 PM   #6531
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you can cross this border also via the steinpass
Can you give me a (Google) roadmap route?
The route I took was http://goo.gl/maps/wPM53

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Old September 16th, 2012, 06:16 PM   #6532
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Can you give me a (Google) roadmap route?
The route I took was http://goo.gl/maps/wPM53
give you what?
i dont know how google roadmaps works but this one is easy,you drive from the austrian side and hit left when you see the sign for melleck
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Old September 16th, 2012, 08:03 PM   #6533
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Old September 16th, 2012, 11:57 PM   #6534
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There is, absolutely, no doubt.

It is the narrowest border world wide.

In the coast, Morocco. The rock is Spain.

An old treaty said all the continent will be Morocco but nothing about the rocks which remained Spanish.


Much later, an eartquake moved the beach and the sand and... an ithsmus was created, making with only 120 m wide the narrowest border world wide.


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Old September 17th, 2012, 12:07 AM   #6535
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Today a Sunday magazine wrote an article about it. The problem became because some inmigrants arrived one of those islands... and we start with the legacy...
should they have to beported or should they have to be considered as illegal inmigrants as well as they arrived to Spanish territory?

There is a treaty between Morocco and Spain about inmigration, and Morocco receive all inmigrants that come from their territory with no problem.
The problem is that if the inmigrants arrive to Europe it is hard to demostrate they are Moroccan or at least, they departured from Morocco, so they only are used to accept those from Ceuta and Melilla.
But in this case, islands close to Morocco coast, there is no doubt and no problem on Morocco side.

The problem is on Spanish legislation side!!


I post the link of the full Spanish article, the other five pictures of the narrowest border world wide and the first paragraphs translated into English


http://www.finanzas.com/xl-semanal/m...tera-3563.html


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A blue rope, lyed on the sand, side to side of the isthmus. Can be surprising but it is a border, the one that separates the Velez de la Gomera Rock territory, under Spanish sovereignty, to the tiny and close fisher village of Badis, in the Gomara region, northern Morocco.

Traveler who arrives behind that rope, from the Moroccan side, would need only to pass a foot over it to break over on another country and cause an immediate sentinel action, belonging part of the "Regulares 52" of Melilla who keep the fortress. Any other who approach from the opposite side, the Spanish territory, will make an act to enter Morocco illegally, which undoubtedly will mobilize someone in the nearby Moroccan military post.


This is the blue rope. Right Morocco, left Spain. Fishers go until the rope but not far away.




The roof of the highest building is the point for helicopters too. At the end of the picture, Moroccan beach

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Old September 17th, 2012, 12:38 AM   #6536
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Can't they just give the rock to Morroco, it would save everyone some headaches.
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Old September 17th, 2012, 12:41 AM   #6537
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Can't they just give the rock to Morroco, it would save everyone some headaches.
Would you "just give" a piece of your nation to others?
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Old September 17th, 2012, 12:44 AM   #6538
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It would certainly set an example and strengthen their claim on Gibraltar.
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It would certainly set an example and strengthen their claim on Gibraltar.
A military praesidium against a thriving community of 30.000. Apples and oranges
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Old September 17th, 2012, 01:02 AM   #6540
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Can't they just give the rock to Morroco, it would save everyone some headaches.
Really... I think so. And save money.

That... or using as holiday resorts... but being on a country where army has had a lot of power... it is better do not talk about the topic with them.

I knew about that island (peninsula) and today I read about it in a magazine. I found the link and posted.
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