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Old October 26th, 2012, 10:32 PM   #6621
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There is a number of such exclaves and pene-exclaves around the world. German Büsingen in Switzerland, Belgian Baarle-Hertog in the Netherlands, Kleinwalsertal in Austria and Alaska in the US, for example.
Yes, but driving between these exclaves and their respective "mother countries" does not involve driving through two foreign countries, let alone three.
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Old October 26th, 2012, 10:36 PM   #6622
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Does Croats drive from Osijek to Dubrovnik via BiH?
very often, yes.
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Old October 26th, 2012, 11:05 PM   #6623
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I can think of Os de Civis, which is on mainland Spain, but it can only be accessed through Andorra. I recall finding an Italian valley that only can be reached from Switzerland.
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Old October 26th, 2012, 11:11 PM   #6624
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I can think of Os de Civis, which is on mainland Spain, but it can only be accessed through Andorra. I recall finding an Italian valley that only can be reached from Switzerland.
Bagni di Craveggia. The Swiss road ends at the border, you must walk to Italy.
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Old October 26th, 2012, 11:24 PM   #6625
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Yes, but driving between these exclaves and their respective "mother countries" does not involve driving through two foreign countries, let alone three.
Think about driving from Ceuta to Madrid without taking a ferry...
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Old October 26th, 2012, 11:36 PM   #6626
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And let us not forget Hyde, Alaska which must be road accessed from Stewart, BC, and Campobello Island, New Brunswick which must be road accessed from Lubec, Maine.
I've been to Campobello.
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Old October 26th, 2012, 11:38 PM   #6627
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I can think of Os de Civis, which is on mainland Spain, but it can only be accessed through Andorra. I recall finding an Italian valley that only can be reached from Switzerland.
Isn't there a valley in Austria that's only reachable from Germany?
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Old October 26th, 2012, 11:57 PM   #6628
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Isn't there a valley in Austria that's only reachable from Germany?
Kleinwalsertal.
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Old October 27th, 2012, 12:28 AM   #6629
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Think about driving from Ceuta to Madrid without taking a ferry...
Sure, but it's illogic, so I wouldn't count it.
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Old October 27th, 2012, 01:00 AM   #6630
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Also Jungholz (Austria) is connected to the rest of Austria only via Germany.
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Old October 27th, 2012, 01:02 AM   #6631
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Think about driving from Ceuta to Madrid without taking a ferry...
You cannot cross between Morocco and Algeria, neither between Israel and Arab countries.
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Old October 27th, 2012, 01:17 AM   #6632
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You cannot cross between Morocco and Algeria, neither between Israel and Arab countries.
As far as I know the border between Israel and Jordan is open. The two countries enjoy relatively good relations.
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Old October 27th, 2012, 01:24 AM   #6633
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Israel and Egypt too. Btw, you can go from Morocco to Algeria through Western Sahara and Mauritania.
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But you can't enter Syria with an Israeli stamp on your passport. And Syria, as well Lybia are currently off limit because of the war.

Are there border checks between Morocco an Western Sahara? Or it's like a single country?
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Old October 27th, 2012, 01:36 AM   #6635
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It's like a single country (but only western Western Sahara). You can get an Israeli stamp on a piece of paper and throw it away in Jordan or Egypt. You can go through Iraq instead of Syria () and through countries south of Libya.
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Old October 27th, 2012, 01:42 AM   #6636
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But you can't enter Syria with an Israeli stamp on your passport. And Syria, as well Lybia are currently off limit because of the war.

Are there border checks between Morocco an Western Sahara? Or it's like a single country?


Single country but let's remember that Western Sahara is... on the Sahara desert.
Last official census was made in 1974 and made about 75000 people in all that territory. Now they WOULD be 5 times more... but try to make a guess
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Old October 27th, 2012, 08:27 AM   #6637
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In Bulgaria the shortest way between the towns of Svilengrad and Ivaylovgrad is through Greece.
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Old October 27th, 2012, 10:59 AM   #6638
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Single country but let's remember that Western Sahara is... on the Sahara desert.
Last official census was made in 1974 and made about 75000 people in all that territory. Now they WOULD be 5 times more... but try to make a guess
Wikipedia says 513.000 people in 2009.

BTW, are there borders between Morocco government and Polisario front controlled areas?
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Old October 27th, 2012, 11:22 AM   #6639
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What about driving from Gibraltar to Britain (supposedly using the Eurotunnel)? You cross at least two countries Spain and France to reach from one British territory to another.
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Old October 27th, 2012, 05:42 PM   #6640
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What about driving from Gibraltar to Britain (supposedly using the Eurotunnel)? You cross at least two countries Spain and France to reach from one British territory to another.
Did it quite a few times. Also went to Jersey a few times. Drove from London to Dover, take a ferry to Calais, drive down to St Malo and then take the ferry to St Hellier. Works out cheaper then take the ferry from Portsmouth or Southampton.
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