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Old November 4th, 2012, 12:24 AM   #6701
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Yes, but, in either case, the crash barriers are...lacking in shininess.
You should see the Struma motorway then!
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Old November 4th, 2012, 11:24 AM   #6702
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yes, not outdated, but at least mediocre.
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and this is mediocre:

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If only more of EE motorway's pavements looked like this mediocre one... I can not imagine what words you will use for most of the pavements of older stretches of motorways in BG for example...
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Old November 4th, 2012, 08:12 PM   #6703
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relativity also applies. this 'quality' is bad for the best EU economy, it might be acceptable in some other country.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 09:55 AM   #6704
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Major reconstruction of Kapitan Andreevo (main border crossing between Bulgaria and Turkey and also one of the most important between Europe and Asia) has started Wednesday. The cost of the reconstruction is above 52 mln leva (some €27 mln). The reconstruction will last more than 2 years, and will be divided by stages, so the building process wont hinder the work of the customs and border controls, but will difficult the traffic.
Most of the nowadays buildings will be destroyed and built newer modern ones. The sheds will be elongated, with more gates/barriers to be added. After completing the reconstruction the border crossing point will have 36 paths in each direction and also it's own medical center and fire brigade.
Statistics show more than 1000 heavy trucks and some 3000 cars and buses pass daily through the border crossing.

Source: http://btvnews.bg/bulgaria/kapitan-a...en-remont.html
Video included in this sourse (in Bulgarian): http://images.btv.bg/vod/2012/11/07/...e_61039066.mp4
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Old November 9th, 2012, 04:28 PM   #6705
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Major reconstruction of Kapitan Andreevo (main border crossing between Bulgaria and Turkey and also one of the most important between Europe and Asia)
I am very sure that Asia really does not start at this border crossing.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 04:53 PM   #6706
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Don't tell that to Nicolas Sarkozy (sorry, couldn't resist).
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Old November 9th, 2012, 04:56 PM   #6707
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Tijuana border crossing is said to be one of the busiest in the world.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 05:17 PM   #6708
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Statistics show more than 1000 heavy trucks and some 3000 cars and buses pass daily through the border crossing.
4.000 vehicles per day. That's not a whole lot... Border procedures must be very slow if they need 36 gates to process that amount of vehicles.

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I am very sure that Asia really does not start at this border crossing.
Technically it does, since there is no other border crossing until you reach Asia.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 11:50 PM   #6709
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4.000 vehicles per day. That's not a whole lot... Border procedures must be very slow if they need 36 gates to process that amount of vehicles.
They are, really. Because it will be not only the gate of EU to non-EU country, but also an outer Schengen border... And being a main Asia-Europe route, it is also a main route for drugs and other illegal trafficking. I think some of the biggest amounts of drugs trying to enter EU are held there. Other special thing is, that as you probably know the "gastarbeiters" or nowadays EU citizens with Turkish descent usually travel with cars/minivans maximum full of luggage, luggage boxes on roof etc, whole families with numerous children etc. So checking one such car sometimes may need the time normally is needed to check 5-6 cars on other border crossings. It is not the usual routine check...
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Old November 10th, 2012, 01:19 AM   #6710
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Maybe something like this, isn't it?

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Old November 10th, 2012, 03:27 AM   #6711
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Technically it does, since there is no other border crossing until you reach Asia.
That's like saying the Russian-North Korean border crossing is a border crossing between Europe and Asia. And 36 gates is a monstrosity.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 10:26 AM   #6712
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Ok. Correct sentence would be "one of the main border crossings on one of the main the routes between Europe and Asia". But hey, do you expect to have a border crossing on one of the Bosphorus bridges in Istanbul or on the ferryboats? Entering the small European part of Turkey means you're free to move to Asia. And most of the traffic through Kapitan Andreevo goes there. It is the last border crossing when you leave Europe toward Asia, it's the first when goods and traffic from Asia enters Europe and EU.

alserrod, it's more like this:









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Old November 10th, 2012, 03:15 PM   #6713
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It is the last border crossing when you leave Europe toward Asia, it's the first when goods and traffic from Asia enters Europe and EU.
That would be the Istanbul Atatürk Airport. Or perhaps some maritime border crossing in Istanbul?
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Old November 10th, 2012, 05:04 PM   #6714
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And 36 gates is a monstrosity.
actually, now there are also more than 30 gates there, but probably all are never operating in the same moment.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 05:06 PM   #6715
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36 gates in each direction That's 72 total.
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36 gates in each direction That's 72 total.
oh, sorry. i thought it was about both direction.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 08:40 PM   #6717
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72? Damn.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 10:28 PM   #6718
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Actually, I don't trust too much what Bulgarian journalist say/write. It can be a misinformation, as officials may have said 36 in both ways, not in each way, but journalist may have not understood it correctly
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Old November 10th, 2012, 10:45 PM   #6719
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I've checked it in Google Earth (It's the one on E80 near BG/GR/TR tripoint), and it seems to have only 36 lanes. So ChrisZwolle was confused. If it really had 72 lanes, it would have been far larger than the toll plaza on E54 Southeast of Paris.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 10:49 PM   #6720
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I doubt there're exactly 36 lanes now. We're talking about the future.
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