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Old November 13th, 2012, 11:21 PM   #6781
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3rd photo reminded me of typical russian provincional town, i thought there's a orthodox church on the picture. As well, as those commieblocks enhance that impression
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Old November 13th, 2012, 11:22 PM   #6782
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BIH will never agree with it because they hope to have MSC Splendida one day in that shallow bay.
But why do they need Bosnian approval since it would connect Croatian lands over Croatian waters?
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Old November 13th, 2012, 11:38 PM   #6783
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Old November 14th, 2012, 03:59 AM   #6784
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I always considered that this would be the best option.

Do you know from a reliable source that this will be the final solution?
This is not the final solution. The whole situation is this:

1. In 2007 building the bridge was started
2. Because of financial problems the works were stopped in 2010
3. In May 2012 all contracts for building the bridge ware canceled. To be able to avoid BiH territory beginning from July 1st 2013, a ferry line should be established on the location were the bridge should be build
4. The possibility to build a motorway through BiH was now officially considered.
5. Somehow surprising, the EU financed a feasibility study for the bridge, most likely for EU funding of the whole project.

So, time is ticking away (to July 1st 2013 when Croatia joins EU), and there is currently no ferry line established or works done for that project, there are no real plans of a motorway through BiH except some general talks about the possibility (with no results) and there is now just a feasibility study done for a bridge which had already been started to be built and was canceled... Great show

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Old November 14th, 2012, 07:07 AM   #6785
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What about an undersea tunnel?
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Old November 14th, 2012, 08:18 PM   #6786
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What about an undersea tunnel?
Or better, a tunnel under BiH
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Old November 14th, 2012, 08:26 PM   #6787
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How about making a corridor so the E65 motorway would be always in Croatia, like that Belgian railroad in Germany?
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Old November 14th, 2012, 10:38 PM   #6788
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That case is historical and taken when borders were set (the special case is when you are in a tunnel under the railway... are you in Belgium or in Germany????????). In this case it is so clear in which country you are.

Supposing I'd be someone of Bosnian government I'd allow for a fenced motorway on condition that a fuel station would be set there...
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A fenced motorway could have also an exit in BiH, provided after the slipways there's border post & customs?
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Old November 15th, 2012, 01:10 AM   #6790
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All above mentioned options are around for a while. The problem is that Bosnia is so complex - their Croat politicians have different views on this than Bosniak or Serb politicians. Hard to set a deal there.

Bridge is really the only solution. It needs to be high enough so it won't block Bosnia access to international sea waters and that's it.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 01:25 AM   #6791
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Yep, building a bridge is the most rational solution for the problem.

And never forget: What's the advantage for BiH to have a extraterritorial motorway build through it's territory? Right: Nothing... So, Croatia has to give something to BiH that would be useful to both entities (to make that deal happen) - and except for money I can't think of much more. So, make your own opinion on this problem
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Old November 15th, 2012, 02:08 AM   #6792
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What's the advantage for BiH to have a extraterritorial motorway build through it's territory?
Good connection of Neum with Split and Dubrovnik. But we should go back to border crossings, this is better discussed in the Croatian or Bosnian thread.
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Old November 24th, 2012, 11:06 PM   #6793
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I want to post pictures posted by forumer efren here
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=3426


In the Spanish forum there is a thread about city pictures taken from air.

In the case of the post, Ayamonte, is in the whole border, and part of the pictures shows Portugal


For instance, in the first picture, a little corner in the left is Portugal and in the second picture, left = Portugal, right = Spain.

As far as I known, the bridge was opened in 1992 (5th centenary of America discovery) and it was planned with no border cabins



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Old November 25th, 2012, 12:05 AM   #6794
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Old November 25th, 2012, 12:37 AM   #6795
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BTW... They write "foreings" in Portuguese, Spanish, English and French. Taking care of the possition of the border... maybe in Arabic would be more interesting than French or English (can it be the southern Schengen border?)
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Old November 25th, 2012, 01:55 PM   #6796
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They could also be placed in German and Dutch, as this area of Spain and Portugal is much visited by tourists from these countries.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 02:25 PM   #6797
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yeah, and why not Chinese since it is one of the most spoken languages in the world?
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Old November 25th, 2012, 03:09 PM   #6798
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I would put it in Klingon and in Sanvicenti Catalan .
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Old November 25th, 2012, 03:45 PM   #6799
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then only Sheldon would understand
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yeah, and why not Chinese since it is one of the most spoken languages in the world?
Because there aren't many Chinese tourists driving there by car.
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