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Old March 4th, 2013, 10:15 PM   #7001
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Just a hint about signals. First signal says the country in Spain, located just in the border, but you will find later the speed limit signal and, usually, distance to several villages or cities.
Regional signal (in this case it says Andalucia and Province of Huelva) are far away... just in order to avoid too many signals at the same time.

In some other place this signal will be in the regional limit. Hadn't it been an international limit, it will be there in this case

And according to the blue box in the right... can it be a system to count traffic??



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Old March 4th, 2013, 10:39 PM   #7002
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This is a hidden closed border between Bosnia and Croatia. There are no posted signs or any other marks on the road that point you to the border. I was in Bosnia and I saw a road on my GPS that led to the border with Croatia, so I decided to follow it. The road was very narrow and surrounded by minefields, I had the feeling I shouldn't be there. This is what I found:

These pictures were taken in July 2011.
did you visit nearby abbandoned military airport?
enthusiasts are sneaking around there, but it is wise to announce to police where are you going to avoid problems.
btw the road at the photos is military road. it has never been border crossing, nor it was operational for civil traffic in Yugoslav period, only for military because that is already area of military air base (abbandoned) and access was strictly forbidden
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Old March 4th, 2013, 10:58 PM   #7003
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did you visit nearby abbandoned military airport?
enthusiasts are sneaking around there, but it is wise to announce to police where are you going to avoid problems.
btw the road at the photos is military road. it has never been border crossing, nor it was operational for civil traffic in Yugoslav period, only for military because that is already area of military air base (abbandoned) and access was strictly forbidden
Oh! I didn't know there was an abandoned military airport If I had only known...

I was just following the road because I thought that was an actual border cross. I always try to cross countries through small roads so I can pull over and take pictures of the welcome signs. It's more difficult on major roads. Do you know the name of the military facility or the border area so I can find pictures on the internet? These pictures were taken near Bihac, Bosnia.
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Old March 4th, 2013, 11:01 PM   #7004
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Very nice pictures of that hidden border road between BiH and HR. Thanks for that!
I also like to take smaller border crossings if I have the time to do the same (take picture with the signs)
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Old March 5th, 2013, 11:01 AM   #7005
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Oh! I didn't know there was an abandoned military airport If I had only known...

I was just following the road because I thought that was an actual border cross. I always try to cross countries through small roads so I can pull over and take pictures of the welcome signs. It's more difficult on major roads. Do you know the name of the military facility or the border area so I can find pictures on the internet? These pictures were taken near Bihac, Bosnia.
of course I know. just google "Željava". you will find a lot of info and reports about it. according to your photos, you were exactly there. here is the location at Google Maps: https://maps.google.hr/?ll=44.841934...90895&t=h&z=14

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Old March 5th, 2013, 12:28 PM   #7006
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Dude, that wasn't a road. It was a airbase taxiway!
I went to Željava AFB a year and a half ago. It'amazing!
It was destroyed by the Serbs in 1992. There are five runways and a vast undeground complex with four entrances, blast doors and 3.5km long tunnels inside the mountain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Željava_Air_Base

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Old March 6th, 2013, 09:53 PM   #7007
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Old March 6th, 2013, 10:09 PM   #7008
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Amazing!!!!!!


Signals of Portugal and Spain are... conversely in the other country.

So, Spain is written in Portuguese (Galician language is very, very close to Portuguese but the word Spain is said as in Spanish)
And Portugal is the same in both languages but "rio Miño" would be Minho in the other side...
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Old March 7th, 2013, 01:11 PM   #7009
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Dude, that wasn't a road. It was a airbase taxiway!
I went to Željava AFB a year and a half ago. It'amazing
Even on Streetview there is a remaining visible:
http://maps.google.nl/?ll=44.857633,...,92.13,,0,5.11
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Old March 8th, 2013, 01:48 AM   #7010
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With the rest of Portugal added to street view, I have been looking at some smaller border crossings:

Batocas (P)-La Alamedilla



Lageosa (P)-Navasfrias(E)

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Old March 8th, 2013, 07:53 PM   #7011
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Guys, as far as I knew until today I always knew that there was only a closed border in the world: that's the (in)famous DMZ between South Korea and North Korea.

But today I discovered that there is another "closed" border: that's the Darién Gap between Colombia and Panama. This one is due to a natural gap that neither Colombian nor Panamian government want to close.

To be honest I know that there also isn't possibility to cross from/to Armenia and Turkey. Is it still so or did they opened some crossing points?

What are the other closed borders in the world?
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As far as I know you can not cross the border between as well Israel and Lebanon as also Israel and Syria
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Old March 8th, 2013, 10:23 PM   #7013
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Can one cross directly between India and Pakistan?

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Old March 8th, 2013, 10:30 PM   #7014
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Morocco-Algeria is also closed.
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Can one cross directly between India and Pakistan?

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I do not know.
I read about a military exhibition made by both armies in a border control that keeps closed all the year.

The exhibition is made every year and takes a lot of people in both countries
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Old March 8th, 2013, 10:35 PM   #7016
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And obviously not closed but... have a look about how many road border crossing you will find Paraguay-Argentina... and compare with the number of kilometres in the border.

Even near Iguazu waterfalls PY-AR must be made, even by boat, even via Brazil crossing two borders in a couple of kilometres.
Further away, a border in a river with no bridges.

There are customs... but few ones only
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Old March 9th, 2013, 12:23 AM   #7017
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Turkey-Armenia and Armenia-Azerbaijan are closed too. Georgia-Russia and Azerbaijan-Russia probably, but I'm not sure. There are no roads between Venezuela and Guyana and Chavez regime claims a part of Guyana.
There are is an industrial park in North Korea that is accessible by road from the South thanks to an agreement between the 2 countries.
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There are is an industrial park in North Korea that is accessible by road from the South thanks to an agreement between the 2 countries.
an agreement from 1991 which has been cancelled today?
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But today I discovered that there is another "closed" border: that's the Darién Gap between Colombia and Panama. This one is due to a natural gap that neither Colombian nor Panamian government want to close.
There is a 'crossing' there anyway:

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/24673015
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Turkey-Armenia and Armenia-Azerbaijan are closed too. Georgia-Russia and Azerbaijan-Russia probably, but I'm not sure.
Armenia - Azerbeijan is closed, though you can travel from Armenia into the disputed terretory of Nagorny Karabakh, which according to the view of most countries is inside Azerbeijan.

Georgia - Russia and Azerbeijan - Russia borders are open, but may only be crossed by CIS citizens.

I found this video in which the border Russia - Georgia is crossed (at 21:20 in the video).

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