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Old March 16th, 2013, 12:29 AM   #7061
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What about visiting Korea (either of them) and then visiting the other with a stamp in the passport? (And I'm not talking about that demilitarized area described a couple of messaged above.)

How does that work, or does it? Sure, I believe foreigners can't cross the inter-Korean border, but they must travel via the PR of China - but is even that allowed with "wrong" Korea's stamp?
I've read the FAQs of many agencies that organize tours to North Korea, and one of the most popular FAQs is about having South Korean stamps on the passport. The answer is always: Not a problem.

I read somewhere that South Korea and Japan can ask you about North Korean stamps on your passport, but they won't deny you entry. It's more like: -Why did you go to North Korea? -Tourism -Alright *stamp*

I think things are more relaxed now all over the world, I have entered Algeria with an Israeli stamp on my passport, Cyprus with a TRNC stamp, and the US with a Cuban stamp. Never had a problem.

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Old March 16th, 2013, 02:53 AM   #7062
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I have had only two stamps on my passports. First of them was entering Austria a long time ago before being part of EU. I had to ask for it. Later, in other international trips they just said they didn't stamp passports, just check.
Second time was in Tunisia and they made a one day visa (I thought that more focused to control that every one entering was going out rather than other control)
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Old March 16th, 2013, 06:12 PM   #7063
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Old March 17th, 2013, 08:34 PM   #7064
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I've read the FAQs of many agencies that organize tours to North Korea, and one of the most popular FAQs is about having South Korean stamps on the passport. The answer is always: Not a problem.

I read somewhere that South Korea and Japan can ask you about North Korean stamps on your passport, but they won't deny you entry. It's more like: -Why did you go to North Korea? -Tourism -Alright *stamp*

I think things are more relaxed now all over the world, I have entered Algeria with an Israeli stamp on my passport, Cyprus with a TRNC stamp, and the US with a Cuban stamp. Never had a problem.
I didn't get a North Korean stamp in my passport at all when visiting the country. The visa was a seperate paper, and stamps were place on that piece of paper.

(Still, you could find out about my visit to the country through the Chinese stamp at the Chinese-Korean border. But it's not so obvious).
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Old March 17th, 2013, 08:44 PM   #7065
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And what about that piece of paper? Did you keep it?
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Old March 17th, 2013, 09:10 PM   #7066
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IIRC they took it at the border when returning to China.
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Old March 17th, 2013, 09:39 PM   #7067
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I didn't get a North Korean stamp in my passport at all when visiting the country. The visa was a seperate paper, and stamps were place on that piece of paper.

(Still, you could find out about my visit to the country through the Chinese stamp at the Chinese-Korean border. But it's not so obvious).
You could've asked them to stamp. Neither of the stamps I mentioned (TRNC, Israel, Cuba) would normally make into anyone's passport. Immigration would rather stamp a separate piece of paper and then you give it back when you leave the country. I had to ask for the stamp.

I like to collect stamps on my passport. I also have lots of stamps from EU/Schengen countries that I had to beg to the immigration officer (I have a EU passport).
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Old March 18th, 2013, 01:49 AM   #7068
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think things are more relaxed now all over the world, I have entered Algeria with an Israeli stamp on my passport, Cyprus with a TRNC stamp, and the US with a Cuban stamp. Never had a problem.
AFAIK, TRNC visas and stamps are normally also placed on a separate piece of paper. But that Cyprus would let you in with a TRNC stamp seems obvious: the border between them is open, so they naturally allow people that have visited TRNC.
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Old March 18th, 2013, 05:48 AM   #7069
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AFAIK, TRNC visas and stamps are normally also placed on a separate piece of paper. But that Cyprus would let you in with a TRNC stamp seems obvious: the border between them is open, so they naturally allow people that have visited TRNC.
As I mentioned on my latter post I had to ask the TRNC authorities to stamp my passport because they would just stamp the separate piece of paper.

That Cyprus would let you in with a TRNC stamp is not as obvious as it seems. What you call a border is not considered a border for the Greek Cypriots. They consider the whole island to be the Republic of Cyprus (the Sovereign British Areas are another story), thus there's no recognized border between Cyprus and TRNC. Since there's no border from the Greek Cypriots point of view there's no reason for an immigration stamp, let alone an immigration stamp issued by a foreign authority other than Cypriot immigration.

In my case, with a EU passport, there's no reason for them to not let me in, since Cyprus is EU. When coming back from TRNC into Cyprus there's a Greek Cypriot checkpoint, if they see a stamp from TRNC immigration across the checkpoint they will cross it out and if you have a proper Cypriot entry stamp they will let you in. If you have a EU passport you don't need the entry stamp but they will cross out any TRNC stamp. My trick was to show my national ID every time I came back from TRNC instead of my passport.

That Cyprus would let you in with a TRNC stamp seems obvious, you say? Certainly there's a case where it's not that obvious. If you have a non-EU passport, and you entered TRNC from Turkey, then from the Greek Cypriot pov you've illegally entered their country. Cross into the Republic of Cyprus and let the officers at the checkpoint see your TRNC stamp issued at the airport but no Cypriot entry stamp and prepare for deportation (that's what lawfully should happen, I don't know how enforced it is).
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Old March 18th, 2013, 12:16 PM   #7070
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It's the same game if you enter Serbia through the Serbian-Kosovoarian "border" and you have only Kosovarian stamps and no Serbian ones...
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Old March 18th, 2013, 06:01 PM   #7071
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It's the same game if you enter Serbia through the Serbian-Kosovoarian "border" and you have only Kosovarian stamps and no Serbian ones...
Is possible to cross the SRB-RKS in both direction for citizens of a third country?
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Old March 18th, 2013, 06:17 PM   #7072
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Is possible to cross the SRB-RKS in both direction for citizens of a third country?
Yes, but first you'll have to enter Serbia from an another country. Then you can visit Kosovo and return to Serbia.

Or, you can exit Kosovo to an another country, but then you'll miss the Serbian exit stamp, which might give you some problems if you sometime still intend to visit Serbia (proper) with the same passport.

Also, if you enter Kosovo from an another country, you'll miss the Serbian entry stamp and might be refused from entering Serbia (proper).
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Old March 18th, 2013, 09:33 PM   #7073
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Let's hope that none of these countries will be able to join the EU until they grow up and get their act together.
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Old March 18th, 2013, 10:09 PM   #7074
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Let's hope that none of these countries will be able to join the EU until they grow up and get their act together.
Serbia won't be allowed in EU if it don't recognize Kosovo.
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Old March 18th, 2013, 10:17 PM   #7075
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Old March 18th, 2013, 11:22 PM   #7076
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My brother is right now in Maastritch.

If only he had remember he must send me some pics........
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Old March 18th, 2013, 11:23 PM   #7077
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Did someone ask them if they want to join?
Main goal of Serbian policy since 2000 is joining the EU.
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Old March 19th, 2013, 03:46 AM   #7078
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Main goal of Serbian policy since 2000 is joining the EU.
Of Serbian crap policy,the only real serbian political party is the srs and they are 100% against something stupid like joining the eu like everybody else with a brain.the eu is a funeral parlor for countries like the czech republic,slovenija,cyprus and so on and the same case will be with croatia and serbia,you will see
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Old March 19th, 2013, 10:02 PM   #7079
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If you have a EU passport you don't need the entry stamp but they will cross out any TRNC stamp.
I crossed the TRNC - Republic of Cyprus border several times every day on my six day trip last December and there was no crossing out of TRNC stamps. In fact they checked my passport only one or two times and only very briefly. Most of the times I could just pass thru the (Greek-) Cypriot checkpoint.
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Old March 20th, 2013, 01:24 AM   #7080
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Yes, but first you'll have to enter Serbia from an another country. Then you can visit Kosovo and return to Serbia.

Or, you can exit Kosovo to an another country, but then you'll miss the Serbian exit stamp, which might give you some problems if you sometime still intend to visit Serbia (proper) with the same passport.

Also, if you enter Kosovo from an another country, you'll miss the Serbian entry stamp and might be refused from entering Serbia (proper).
That's true! But there's an exception: Several foreign citizens (for example all EU citizens) only need an ID card since last year. And since you can't get a stamp when entering with ID card, this problem is gone
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