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Old March 23rd, 2013, 01:11 PM   #7101
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I always considered the LKW / PKW thing to be basic knowledge of the German / Austrian Autobahn system. Like Autohof. Or Ausfahrt. Or Bleifrei. I think most eastern European drivers also know what it means.
What about people who drives to Germany/Austria once in a while for tourism?
Europe, unlike the USA, is multilingual so it should adopt pictograms instead of texts in its signage. Especially when it's simple like drawing a car and a truck.

BTW, Ausfahrt is the subject of many jokes: "I was in Germany and that city was signposted everywhere but I couldn't find it on the map."
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 02:18 PM   #7102
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I always considered the LKW / PKW thing to be basic knowledge of the German / Austrian Autobahn system. Like Autohof. Or Ausfahrt. Or Bleifrei. I think most eastern European drivers also know what it means.
I agree.
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 02:20 PM   #7103
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There's another joke. A Bosnian came to Germany to visit his friend. He calls his friend from a phone box to come and pick him. Friend asks:"Tell me the name of the street and will come and pick you up". Bosnian replies:"I am in Einbahnstrasse (which means one way street)!"
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 07:31 PM   #7104
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 10:47 PM   #7105
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I always considered the LKW / PKW thing to be basic knowledge of the German / Austrian Autobahn system. Like Autohof. Or Ausfahrt. Or Bleifrei. I think most eastern European drivers also know what it means.
Well, it isn't. When I learned German in high school, I was told that a car is "das Auto". I was really confused when seeing this PKW for the first time.

However, I don't think this is a major problem. What's the worst that could happen if one chooses the wrong lane? Not any fines, anyway?

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Old March 24th, 2013, 12:21 AM   #7106
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i also find LKW and PKW kind of basics in traffic language actually, German language has strong influence into traffic terms, so on can often hear words Autobahn, Stau, Baustelle, Tankstelle, Zoll etc.
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Old March 24th, 2013, 12:29 AM   #7107
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It's even not uncommon to hear Dutch speak about a "baustelle" in German context, especially those who travel through Germany frequently. (I don't think Franc-o-philes know it).
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Old March 24th, 2013, 12:40 AM   #7108
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My brother is right now in Maastritch.

If only he had remember he must send me some pics........
He had no time for these pictures. I will killl him!!!!!!!!!!


By the way, he sent me a photo from Charleroi airport this early morning wearing hard overcoats and being the airport services with salt over the tracks to avoid ice.

When he finished the flight and landed, he could get off with just a T-shirt
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Old March 24th, 2013, 01:06 AM   #7109
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There's another joke. A Bosnian came to Germany to visit his friend. He calls his friend from a phone box to come and pick him. Friend asks:"Tell me the name of the street and will come and pick you up". Bosnian replies:"I am in Einbahnstrasse (which means one way street)!"
Not always a joke: in 2000, a Japanese tourist in Cologne parked his rental car and -to find it again after visiting a popular festival- wisely took a note of the street name. When he indeed got lost on his way back, he asked police officers where Einbahnstrasse is. They ultimately managed to rediscover the rental car after a lengthy walk.
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Old March 24th, 2013, 03:12 AM   #7110
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i also find LKW and PKW kind of basics in traffic language
Yeah, but what about all those foreigners who don't understand any German?
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Old March 24th, 2013, 07:16 AM   #7111
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Yeah, but what about all those foreigners who don't understand any German?
What about foreigners who don't understand Slovenian? Or English? Or French? Or Spanish?

Welcome to Europe...
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Old March 24th, 2013, 10:09 AM   #7112
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I always considered the LKW / PKW thing to be basic knowledge of the German / Austrian Autobahn system. Like Autohof. Or Ausfahrt. Or Bleifrei. I think most eastern European drivers also know what it means.
We know, know. Some of us drivers call our Latvian rest areas as Autohof and gas stations as Tankstelle.

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Old March 24th, 2013, 12:52 PM   #7113
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What about foreigners who don't understand Slovenian? Or English? Or French? Or Spanish?
They follow pictograms, not obscure acronyms.
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Yeah, but what about all those foreigners who don't understand any German?
neither i am not some trained german speaker, so i understand it. actually, i didn't know what precisely PKW and LKW meant, I just knew it was abbrevitation for cars and lorries.

what about Italians?
-in caso di nebbia
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you find it all over Italy. or maybe the best one is "in galleria". Italians and Slovenians are probably the only nations in the world who don't use the word "tunnel"

also, i still don't get the meaning of french "rappel" which you see everywhere. i think it should mean that the warning where is written "rappel" happens on longer stretch of the road, but i'm not sure in that.
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also, i still don't get the meaning of french "rappel" which you see everywhere. i think it should mean that the warning where is written "rappel" happens on longer stretch of the road, but i'm not sure in that.
Or "mindestens halber tacho" I found on German A 9.
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Old March 24th, 2013, 01:33 PM   #7116
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also, i still don't get the meaning of french "rappel" which you see everywhere. i think it should mean that the warning where is written "rappel" happens on longer stretch of the road, but i'm not sure in that.
I googled about "rappel", it is a reminder of the road-sign shown. It means that sign is valid also before and after the sign.

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Or "mindestens halber tacho" I found on German A 9.
I saw that too, I googled after, and saw it means, divide the value of your kmh speed, and that at least that value is the number of meters you should keep with the front car.
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I saw that too, I googled after, and saw it means, divide the value of your kmh speed, and that at least that value is the number of meters you should keep with the front car.
Something easy and not at all dangerous to do while driving at 200 km/h.
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People are very bad at estimating distances from a moving car.
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Old March 24th, 2013, 02:45 PM   #7119
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also, i still don't get the meaning of french "rappel" which you see everywhere. i think it should mean that the warning where is written "rappel" happens on longer stretch of the road, but i'm not sure in that.
Rappel -> Remember.

It's used when the maximum speed is the normal maximun speed of the track, for example, in a highway you don't need to have a 130 speed signal because you know that the maximum speed is 130 km/h in highway. Only when a stretch has a lower limitation it is needed a speed signal. But sometimes they put 130 signals to "remember" that you have to take care about speed.
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Old March 24th, 2013, 02:56 PM   #7120
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I personally know very well what LKW and PKW are since my teen years, when I used to dream about purchasing a car, and in internet the best place to watch for some cars was mobile.de, by that time there wasn't the option to choose the language in which you see the site.
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