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Old March 24th, 2013, 05:10 PM   #7121
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Rappel -> Remember.

It's used when the maximum speed is the normal maximun speed of the track, for example, in a highway you don't need to have a 130 speed signal because you know that the maximum speed is 130 km/h in highway.
I would say it is used always when the sign is repeated as a reminder of an existing speed limit or some other restriction. Nothing more special.
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Old March 24th, 2013, 05:15 PM   #7122
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Europe, unlike the USA, is multilingual so it should adopt pictograms instead of texts in its signage. Especially when it's simple like drawing a car and a truck.
Agree. The use of those PKW/LKW acronyms (which really are not widely known outside the German speaking area and the neighbours) is rather an odd choice. Typically, the German signage represents a very good practice, with the exception of using those acronyms instead of pictograms.
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Old March 24th, 2013, 05:30 PM   #7123
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Last summer while I was driving on a Hungarian M5, I have read from those info screens some information which was only in Hungarian "...20 perc". I couldn't understand what "perc" could mean. Later I realised that "perc" means "minute", which is very confusing, because many languages use version of "minute" word and Hungarian doesn't...
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Old March 25th, 2013, 12:56 AM   #7124
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It's a real shame that we have so much traffic signs in here in Germany which can't be understand if you don't speak German. For example we have very often signs with a speed limit and an additional sign stating "bei Nässe" which means that the speed limit is only valid if the street is wet. And many, many examples for those signs.

I also can't understand why our traffic informations on radio aren't also read in English - at least in summer times. There are so many foreign drivers traveling through Germany and we have so much traffic jams but we expect all our visitors to understand the traffic informations in German. This is just stupid...
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Old March 25th, 2013, 01:29 AM   #7125
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neither i am not some trained german speaker, so i understand it. actually, i didn't know what precisely PKW and LKW meant, I just knew it was abbrevitation for cars and lorries.

what about Italians?
-in caso di nebbia
-uscita rampe
-rallentare

you find it all over Italy. or maybe the best one is "in galleria". Italians and Slovenians are probably the only nations in the world who don't use the word "tunnel"

also, i still don't get the meaning of french "rappel" which you see everywhere. i think it should mean that the warning where is written "rappel" happens on longer stretch of the road, but i'm not sure in that.
Tunnel is used in Italian language but not on signs. However we have some English VMSs.

Europe should use more local language - English bilingual signs where pictograms aren't pratical. Like this one ("closed road" should be "road closed", but it's however clear).

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Last summer while I was driving on a Hungarian M5, I have read from those info screens some information which was only in Hungarian "...20 perc". I couldn't understand what "perc" could mean. Later I realised that "perc" means "minute", which is very confusing, because many languages use version of "minute" word and Hungarian doesn't...
Italy uses ' instead fo "minuti" on VMSs. For example: Venezia 23'.
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Old March 25th, 2013, 03:59 AM   #7126
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neither i am not some trained german speaker, so i understand it. actually, i didn't know what precisely PKW and LKW meant, I just knew it was abbrevitation for cars and lorries.

what about Italians?
-in caso di nebbia
-uscita rampe
-rallentare

you find it all over Italy. or maybe the best one is "in galleria". Italians and Slovenians are probably the only nations in the world who don't use the word "tunnel"
But those aren't as important as PKW and LKW. Btw, we officially use "predor", but colloquially we say "tunel".
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Old March 25th, 2013, 08:21 AM   #7127
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It's a real shame that we have so much traffic signs in here in Germany which can't be understand if you don't speak German. For example we have very often signs with a speed limit and an additional sign stating "bei Nässe" which means that the speed limit is only valid if the street is wet. And many, many examples for those signs.
"Bei Nässe" is understandable because the sign is usually complete with pictograms:
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Old March 25th, 2013, 10:15 AM   #7128
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Sign in Port of Bilbao, welcoming people to Euskadi, and reminding people coming from Porstmouth they have to drive on right.



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Old March 25th, 2013, 04:30 PM   #7129
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Quite interesting

Portalet/Pourtalet (E/F) mountains pass is over 1700m and has a binational treaty since some years ago for winter maintenance. It is made by Aragon regional government and Hautes Pyrenees department gov.
The same company makes maintenance not only for one stretch of the road but for a whole international stretch (so you will avoid to see a perfect road in one side and a snowed road in the other side and conversely the day after)

The old custom building is used for these activities while winter

https://maps.google.es/?ll=42.805825...10568&t=w&z=17

Now they have signed to use it in summer for cultural venues... in a building that it is just in the same border (fifty-fifty, they were the old customs)

Here you are a news in Spanish. Should anyone need help, just ask for a translation.

http://www.heraldo.es/noticias/arago...0_1101026.html



And the building seen from the Spanish side

https://maps.google.es/?ll=42.805474...&cbp=13,0,,0,0


and from the French side

https://maps.google.es/?ll=42.806251...96507840145304
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Old March 25th, 2013, 04:57 PM   #7130
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Old March 25th, 2013, 07:11 PM   #7131
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can someone please explain me those flags and which countries those flags belong to?
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Old March 25th, 2013, 07:53 PM   #7132
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can someone please explain me those flags and which countries those flags belong to?
Those North Korean soldiers are standing on the South Korean side of the room during the time that DPRK has control of the room for its tourists. The flags are those countries that participated in the United Nations joint force that fought the communist forces during the Korean war. The three at the top are those of the principles, USA, the UN, and South Korea.

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Old March 26th, 2013, 12:48 AM   #7133
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Are former border crossings allowed?

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Granita Romano-Polono , iunie 1939
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Old March 26th, 2013, 12:59 AM   #7134
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In the UK there are also 'repeater' signs like the French 'rappel' ones but they don't say 'repeater' and they're smaller than normal ones.
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Old March 26th, 2013, 08:09 AM   #7135
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In the UK there are also 'repeater' signs like the French 'rappel' ones but they don't say 'repeater' and they're smaller than normal ones.
And usually placed on tree's.
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Old March 26th, 2013, 06:19 PM   #7136
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Are former border crossings allowed?
I don't mind

I found some remaining border's bollards located on the former Polish-Romanian border.



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Old March 27th, 2013, 02:12 PM   #7137
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cinxxx, could you tell where is that place?
Interesting is also history of former Polish-Hungarian border (18 March - 28 September 1939).
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Old March 27th, 2013, 02:56 PM   #7138
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Are former border crossings allowed?
This photo is particularly interesting since as most of you will be aware unfortunately there's no longer a Polish-Romanian border. Great find!
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Old March 27th, 2013, 03:43 PM   #7139
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I also asked the same question in the Romanian section where the picture was posted by user Porcu

The only answer was, it should be in today Ukraine NW from Cernăuţi...
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Old March 27th, 2013, 04:29 PM   #7140
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It would be interesting if we find a former border crossing between Romania and Czechoslovakia...
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