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Old May 6th, 2013, 07:58 PM   #7401
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Notice how the pavement changes.
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Old May 6th, 2013, 08:12 PM   #7402
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there is similar thing in Croatia, also at Hungarian border
http://maps.google.it/maps?q=gussing...stria&t=m&z=16
That's interesting due to the fact that Croatia is not in Schengen, not technically in EU yet.
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Old May 6th, 2013, 09:18 PM   #7403
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Ok,.... let's change to the other corner of Europe.

I found this (in the middle of the fog).

The picture is taken in Spain. There is an unpaved path that I do not know if it is entirely within the border or full in the Portuguese side but it takes a lot of kilometres.

It seems that the stone in the middle of the cross is pointing the border so going to the left will be Portugal (a part of the path that it is paved and in a few meters turns again to inside Portugal)




taken from here

https://maps.google.es/maps?q=rosal+...321.35,,0,9.96
And (Schengen in this case) look at this case I wrote just a couple of days ago.

Maybe few people got notice of it because it was in the middle of another discussion.
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Old May 6th, 2013, 09:51 PM   #7404
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Croatian, soon European side on the Debeli brijeg border crossing with Montenegro. The signs are already there: SVI PUTNICI-ALL PASPORTS, the sign EU-EEA-CH was not enlighted. Average waiting time per one passenger car: five minutes. It seems that Croatian (soon European) border and customs control officers are doing their job well.

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Old May 6th, 2013, 10:08 PM   #7405
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From Portugal, into Spain!
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Old May 6th, 2013, 10:08 PM   #7406
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Seems nice. We have posted too many borders. Someone without any fence. Other ones with controls but this seems to be the most ready border control for this issue.

How is Croatian process for being part of EU?

BTW, my parents are flying to Croatia on holidays tomorrow... If I can, I'll post any picture somewhere.
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Old May 6th, 2013, 10:09 PM   #7407
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Although the UK and Ireland remain out of the Schengen Agreement, there are no border checks in Ireland (Republic to Northern Ireland).
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Old May 6th, 2013, 10:14 PM   #7408
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From Portugal, into Spain!

Nice video. Taken here
https://maps.google.es/?ll=37.236889...69086&t=h&z=13

It is where the Guadiana river, one of the longest in the Iberian peninsula ends and arrives to the Ocean.

I do not know the name given in Portugal to that bridge but in Spain is called the 5th centenary bridge because it was opened 500 years after America discovery (and the ships departed to America very, very near from there)


By the way.... the first international cross of the first (E-01) European Road.
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Old May 6th, 2013, 10:32 PM   #7409
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Seems nice. We have posted too many borders. Someone without any fence. Other ones with controls but this seems to be the most ready border control for this issue.

How is Croatian process for being part of EU?

BTW, my parents are flying to Croatia on holidays tomorrow... If I can, I'll post any picture somewhere.
Croatia is set to become the 28th member of EU at July 1st this year. All parliaments of EU member states have voted to ratify the Treaty of Accession of R of Croatia, except German Bundestag and Bundesrat, who will ratify it in May.
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Old May 6th, 2013, 10:55 PM   #7410
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Will Schengen apply at the same time?
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Old May 6th, 2013, 11:04 PM   #7411
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No, it is scheduled to apply sometime at the end of 2015 (however it depends on German and Dutch). There is a lot to do regarding Schengen agreement on Croatian airports. Road borders seem to be prepaired for Schengen well.
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Old May 6th, 2013, 11:04 PM   #7412
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This is the border crossing between Isaccea (Romînia) and Orlivka (Ukraine). At the moment it is a local crossing (only for residents in the area), but I think that if it was open for everyone, as the only border post between Dobrogea/Dobruja and Ukraine, it would be an important shortcut within E87 (not having to cross Moldova anymore).

http://goo.gl/maps/tGqdX


There have been attempts to introduce a ferry between the port seen in the picture (Isaccea) and Ukraine, but authorities wasn’t willing to change the border status from local to international, so it didn’t come to reality.



I will always think that a bridge would be much better, as I told in the Romanian forum some years ago, but its design would be kind of complicated, and I do not see it in a near future. The bridge would be best located between the two towns said, as if it were to the east, it would affect Danube Delta, and if it was to the east, the detour for E87 would be worse.



This doesn’t mean that Brăila-Smîrdan bridge shouldn’t be built. Of course it should, so then not only drivers from Black Sea litoral would be able to reach Ukraine much easier with my proposed bridge, but also drivers from Bucharest and Western Balkans, with both bridges.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 06:47 PM   #7413
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No, it is scheduled to apply sometime at the end of 2015 (however it depends on German and Dutch). There is a lot to do regarding Schengen agreement on Croatian airports. Road borders seem to be prepaired for Schengen well.
I'm not convinced Croatia is ready at all. They are being incredibly lax on the Slovenian border to the point where they're not even scanning passports, they don't seem to have enacted any real security measures on the lengthy Bosnian border and - if they're taking 5 minutes to check one car at the MNE border, then they're acting like idiots with respect to soon-to-be-EU traffic.

A good example - I went to Zeljava airbase (photos to come...) and there is no sign of any police control there. The Bosnians have a hut on their side of the border, but the Croatians - nothing. There's no sign of any construction there, yet it's a very obvious place to have a guard hut.

For me, the best solution would be to work towards getting Macedonia, Serbia, Croatia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Albania into Schengen at the same time. I'd go one further and tie Romanian and Bulgarian accession into that, so that the entire Balkans (well, not Kosovo, but...) enters as one, meaning that the external borders will be far easier to secure with a joint effort. As it stands, it'll be possible for someone to enter Albania, head up through Montenegro and Bosnia and then only have to make it into Croatia before they're home free. Not a great situation.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 07:13 PM   #7414
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For me, the best solution would be to work towards getting Macedonia, Serbia, Croatia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Albania into Schengen at the same time.
Um... They ought to work towards getting their shit together first, before they'd even be considered membership, Croatia excepted.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 07:22 PM   #7415
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Although the UK and Ireland remain out of the Schengen Agreement, there are no border checks in Ireland (Republic to Northern Ireland).
...because they have their own agreement.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 08:22 PM   #7416
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Will an Irish citizen have a special control taking a flight from Belfast?

If it doesn't, illegal emigration can be done.
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From Belfast to where? All EU citizens will get the same treatment as British ones. There is no such thing as illegal immigration of EU citizens within the EU, some eastern European countries excepted.
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Will an Irish citizen have a special control taking a flight from Belfast?

If it doesn't, illegal emigration can be done.
What do you mean?
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From Belfast to where? All EU citizens will get the same treatment as British ones. There is no such thing as illegal immigration of EU citizens within the EU, some eastern European countries excepted.
or to the UK... it will be without passport control
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or to the UK... it will be without passport control
That doesn't matter. An Irish citizen has as much right to live and work in London as someone from Yorkshire. There are no passport controls on the ferries between the Republic of Ireland and mainland UK. The Irish will take measures to prevent illegal immigration from the outside as much as the British.
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