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Old July 26th, 2013, 05:26 PM   #8141
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Old July 26th, 2013, 05:39 PM   #8142
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I have been hesitating for a while whether I ask you guys about the current relations among former yugoslav nations. According to my two friends (one Croat and one Serb) it is still not very good. So how it is?
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Old July 26th, 2013, 05:41 PM   #8143
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The lady where I stayed one night in Pula, told me, that the war didn't hit them very hard, so they don't care that much about this. But she understands those who had family that were killed in the war, there the situation is not so easy.

A Serb girl here told my gf that it's not always pleasant to visit Croatia, the're accent is recognized and...

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Old July 26th, 2013, 09:50 PM   #8144
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I have been hesitating for a while whether I ask you guys about the current relations among former yugoslav nations. According to my two friends (one Croat and one Serb) it is still not very good. So how it is?
The worst problems exist between Serbs and Albanians (especially those living in Kosovo) because of some reasons that we know very well and that generate huge discussions that need moderation every time they're mentioned on SSC.
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Old July 27th, 2013, 11:39 AM   #8145
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Problems are however less than some people or media might say. To get back ontopic, I speak the Croatian version, but have never encountered any problems on the border with e.g. Montenegro (or elsewhere in Srpska of Montenegro).

I have never been to Kosovo, but I hope Albanians might know the difference between Croatian or Serbian
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Old July 27th, 2013, 06:12 PM   #8146
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Border of Chile and Bolivia at Chungara and Jancoaque











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Old July 27th, 2013, 07:04 PM   #8147
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4680 meters above sea level. That's possible the highest paved border crossing in South America.
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Old July 28th, 2013, 01:56 AM   #8148
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Is it easy to cross that border?
As far as I know, relations between Chile and Bolivia are not good at all
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Old July 28th, 2013, 10:50 AM   #8149
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Relations between Bolivia and Chile are strained because Bolivia lost its coast (and access to unrestricted international trade) 130 years ago in the War of the Pacific. Access to the ocean is still a hot topic in Bolivia, although Bolivia can import and export goods fairly unrestricted through Chile.
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Old July 28th, 2013, 11:08 AM   #8150
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I think they use Peru rather than Chile. Btw... They have a navy. Not big.. But they expect to have coast at some other time and have a little navy
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Old July 28th, 2013, 03:27 PM   #8151
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Old July 28th, 2013, 03:38 PM   #8152
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Road border crossing Grzechotki (POL) - Mamonovo (RUS)


Date of photo : 2013 07 26

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03. Bridge over the river Banówka


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05. Route DK22. Bridge over the river Omaza



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Old July 28th, 2013, 04:30 PM   #8153
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No long queues there ;-)
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Old July 28th, 2013, 04:53 PM   #8154
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I wish I could find pictures of the old MNE border crossing however - of Debeli Brijeg.
Could it be this white one, at the left? It is immidiately after the border and nowadays you can still see that there has been 'something'.

It is a screenshot from this short video

A video around the Croatian side of this border from 1995 - when the border still was closed - can be found here. Note the licence plate around 7:45, this shoud be the first car registered in Dubrovnik after Croatian independence
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Old July 28th, 2013, 05:09 PM   #8155
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A video around the Croatian side of this border from 1995 - when the border still was closed - can be found here. Note the licence plate around 7:45, this shoud be the first car registered in Dubrovnik after Croatian independence
that's not random, but customized plate. random plates start with XX 100-X

this is probably car from Dubrovnik authorities (major or something), they usually have such numbers. for instance, president has ZG 001-A.
mayor in my city has BJ 043-GP (043 is code for my county, GP means city council (gradsko poglavarstvo))
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Old July 28th, 2013, 05:17 PM   #8156
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What is it about in the video posted above? It seems to be some kind of planned meeting...
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Old July 28th, 2013, 05:55 PM   #8157
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What is it about in the video posted above? It seems to be some kind of planned meeting...
yep. the guy in suit with tie is the, khm, prefect (if that's the right word, president of Dubrovnik-Neretva county). Montenegrian city Herceg Novi had the water supply from Croatia. the supplying line has been closed due to war happenings, and they came to the border to have a meeting about starting water supply from Dubrovnik to Herceg Novi.
i don't know who is the guy dressed like doctor. probably some UNPROFOR troupes or something.
at around 5:00 we find out that Montenegrian representatives are late and Croats are very angry. finally, Montenegrians hadn't appeared at all so the meeting hasn't been held.
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Old July 28th, 2013, 10:09 PM   #8158
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protests to Spain over
Gibraltar border traffic delays
28 July 2013 Last updated at 19:58
The delays at the border followed a dispute
earlier in the week
The UK government has protested to Spain about
long delays at the border with Gibraltar.
The Gibraltar government had said Spain created
"deliberate hold-ups" to traffic travelling to and
from the British territory and Spain over the
weekend and Friday.
Foreign Secretary William Hague called the
Spanish Foreign Minister on Sunday to express
"serious concerns".
It follows earlier accusations of Spanish
incursions into British waters.
Spain disputes UK sovereignty over Gibraltar, a
limestone outcrop on the southern tip of the
Iberian peninsula, which has been ruled by Britain
since 1713.
Travel 'torture'
The Gibraltar government said Spain engineered
delays to traffic travelling from Spain to the
British territory on Sunday.
That was after nearly six hours of delays for
those leaving Gibraltar on Saturday in
temperatures of 30C (86F) as Spanish authorities
searched "practically every vehicle".
On Sunday evening, the Foreign Office said that
as well as the call between the two foreign
ministers, the British ambassador in Madrid
raised concerns with the Spanish deputy foreign
minister, and Britain had "registered our protest"
with the Spanish ambassador in London.
It said it would not speculate on any links to the
recent disagreement between Spain and Gibraltar
over the placing of concrete blocks to create an
artificial reef in Gibraltar's territorial waters.
"Our main concerns at the moment are restoring
people's basic right to freedom of movement, and
we want to work towards a speedy solution that
will help to ease the very difficult situation and
humanitarian issues at the border and enable a
return to normal operations," said a spokesman.
Earlier, the government of Gibraltar said: "The
Spanish Government has inflicted these
unnecessary delays on the elderly, children and
the infirm in up to 30 degrees of heat.
"This torture has resulted in an ambulance being
deployed to treat people with medical conditions.
On Friday, for instance, a Spanish man had to be
taken to hospital with chest pains."
It said the delays had affected tourists and
"thousands" of people who go in and out of
Gibraltar every day to work.
'Forgotten by UK'
Gibraltar's Deputy Chief Minister, Joseph Garcia,
said: "Spain has again shown that she cannot
resolve issues through normal diplomatic
channels.
"Instead she merely resorts to heavy-hand tactics
at the frontier. The behaviour of the Spanish
authorities is unacceptable, un-European and
illegal."
Fellow government ministers John Cortes and
Steven Linares distributed water on Saturday
afternoon to motorists caught in the queues at
the border, and the Royal Gibraltar Police called
in 10 additional officers to help with traffic
control.
Gareth Gingell, who is a member of the activist
group Defenders of Gibraltar, handed out water to
people stuck in the queues at the border on
Sunday.
He told the BBC the Guardia Civil was "only
letting one car through about every 30 minutes".
"It's taking about four hours for people to get
through," he said.
Speaking before the Foreign Office's statement on
Sunday evening, he said: "We've had to endure
this kind of thing all yesterday and all the day
before. I feel like we've been forgotten by the UK
government."
The row follows a dispute earlier in the week that
led the British government to say it would make a
formal protest to the Spanish government.
The Gibraltar government had commissioned a
contractor to create an artificial reef by placing
concrete blocks into the sea on Wednesday and
Thursday.
But the Foreign Office said Spanish Guardia Civil
vessels "attempted to disrupt the activities" when
they unlawfully entered British Gibraltar territorial
waters.
The Royal Navy Gibraltar Squadron, Royal
Gibraltar Police and Gibraltar Defence Police were
later deployed to prevent the disruption.
Spanish newspaper ABC reported that the
Spanish government had made a formal
complaint to the British about the work.
The government is reported to have said that
dropping several dozen spiked concrete blocks
into the water could tear fishing nets, scare fish
away and cause environmental damage.
'Gridlocked'
A resident of Gibraltar, David Gibbins, told the
BBC Saturday's delays meant the tiny British
overseas territory - which has a population of
less than 30,000 - was "gridlocked".
"It blocked the whole town," he said.
"People couldn't go to the beach, they couldn't
go to their houses and they couldn't go to see
their families."
He caught the tail-end of Saturday's queue to
leave the island.
He said border guards were "checking every bit of
paperwork", which he said never normally
happened.
Spain has yet to respond to the accusations it
deliberately caused the delays.


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Old July 28th, 2013, 10:43 PM   #8159
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Is it easy to cross that border?
As far as I know, relations between Chile and Bolivia are not good at all
The traveler who made these pictures had no problems to cross the border. Only standard procedures on both sides.
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Brand new EU border sign. I ignore the name of the POI.
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