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Old August 28th, 2013, 11:31 PM   #8401
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POLAND/CZECH REP. BORDERS. SCHENGEN BORDER, NO BORDERS :-)




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Old August 29th, 2013, 02:48 PM   #8402
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POLAND/CZECH REP. BORDERS. SCHENGEN BORDER, NO BORDERS :-)
Sorry, but that's frequently repeated mistake. The border is there, clearly visible. Just the border control gone. (Yes, it's not "just" as in the meaning "only", it's a big thing, but you are still not allowed to transport certain things over it. )
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Old August 29th, 2013, 02:55 PM   #8403
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Sorry, but that's frequently repeated mistake. The border is there, clearly visible. Just the border control gone.
Even the border control is there, lurking around hidden somewhere. The regular border checks only are gone.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 03:58 PM   #8404
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Polish yellow road signs are ugly
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Old August 29th, 2013, 04:12 PM   #8405
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Hungary-Slovenia

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Old August 29th, 2013, 05:46 PM   #8406
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https://maps.google.it/maps?q=menton...49.88,,1,-1.69
Italian road sign in France.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 07:51 PM   #8407
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https://maps.google.fi/?ll=59.488931...22.9,,0,-10.74

Approaching the Norwegian border from Sweden at E18, the signs are clearly Swedish but the text in them is Norwegian (aside with English)...
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Old August 29th, 2013, 09:03 PM   #8408
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Slovenian road sign in Hungary.

This is Google Street View, right? Why does it look like some other program?
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Old August 29th, 2013, 10:32 PM   #8409
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It is Google Street view. Do you use new Google Map?
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Old August 29th, 2013, 10:39 PM   #8410
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Oh, it's the new version. No, I don't use it.
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Old August 30th, 2013, 12:25 AM   #8411
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Old August 30th, 2013, 12:38 AM   #8412
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Tripoint monument Germany/France/Switzerland in Basel







This bridge is between Germany (right) and France (left) - picture taken from Switzerland though


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Old August 30th, 2013, 02:22 AM   #8413
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Sorry, but that's frequently repeated mistake. The border is there, clearly visible. Just the border control gone. (Yes, it's not "just" as in the meaning "only", it's a big thing, but you are still not allowed to transport certain things over it. )
Yes like nuclear weapons, or the massive destruction ones or heroin or cocain... or insane amounts of tobacco (>40 packages/person or more if you can demostrate that it's for personal use) or alcohol (>110 litres of beer/person for example or more if you can demostrate that it's for personal use) or more than 10.000 EUR (only in some borders).

http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens...h/index_en.htm
(IRONIC-MODE=OFF)Note that the only things that you cannot carry while crossing a schengen border are insane amounts of tobacco, alcohol or money... furthermore you shouldn't cross with things that are illegal to carry even if there isn't a border in any of the countries(IRONIC-MODE=ON)

They are clearly destroying our rights!!! Why can't I go with a nuclear weapon from a country to another?
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Old August 30th, 2013, 02:36 AM   #8414
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Note that the only things that you cannot carry while crossing a schengen border are insane amounts of tobacco, alcohol or money...
Inner Schengen border, that is.

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I was there in 2000.
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Old August 30th, 2013, 02:38 AM   #8415
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"Originally Posted by OriK
Note that the only things that you cannot carry while crossing a schengen border are insane amounts of tobacco, alcohol or money..."

That's because the Single Market is a joke and taxes do apply when importing goods from another EU country.
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Old August 30th, 2013, 04:09 AM   #8416
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They don't AFAIK

Tobacco and Alcohol are special cases because their special and heterogeneous taxes around Europe.

Money in cash is another special case to avoid capital flight.

Of course there are things in which the single market isn't still effective like car sales (it's a burocratic nightmare to buy a car in another state, Netherlands even taxes you for doing it).

Telecoms is another example... why the f... do I have to pay the double (for say something) when using Vodafone D instead of Vodafone E?

But those are exceptions anyway. Nothing prevents you for buying a TV in Portugal for using it in Spain as nothing prevents a French company to sell a Italian TV in Sweden (as far as it registers a society in Sweden).
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Old August 30th, 2013, 04:13 AM   #8417
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They don't AFAIK

Tobacco and Alcohol are special cases because their special and heterogeneous taxes around Europe.

Money in cash is another special case to avoid capital flight.

Of course there are things in which the single market isn't still effective like car sales (it's a burocratic nightmare to buy a car in another state, Netherlands even taxes you for doing it).

Telecoms is another example... why the f... do I have to pay the double (for say something) when using Vodafone D instead of Vodafone E?

But those are exceptions anyway. Nothing prevents you for buying a TV in Portugal for using it in Spain as nothing prevents a French company to sell a Italian TV in Sweden (as far as it registers a society in Sweden).
Actually, they do! A friend of mine works at the port's customs office. Importing goods from other EU states is not tax free! I think the tax is 2% or something like that.
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Old August 30th, 2013, 04:23 AM   #8418
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There are some areas in the EU not belonging to the customs union. Maybe that's the case...

It also might have something to do with the regulations on free ports...

It might be also the tax for the use of the port.
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Old August 30th, 2013, 08:46 AM   #8419
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First moment when I saw this picture I was like... what the hell is doing the Netherlands flag here?
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Old August 30th, 2013, 09:17 AM   #8420
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First moment when I saw this picture I was like... what the hell is doing the Netherlands flag here?
Same out here.
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