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Old October 4th, 2008, 03:00 PM   #841
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I've been through Andorra checks 1,5 month ago.

You don't have to show a passport or ID, but they want to know if you bought stuff in Andorra, like electronics etc.
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Old October 4th, 2008, 03:51 PM   #842
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I've been in and out of Andorra a few times, no passport check.

I've also been in and out of Switzerland many times without a passport check. Many of them were crossing the border while skiing, but many others just driving into France near Geneva.
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Old October 4th, 2008, 04:53 PM   #843
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The Swiss are not very strict on border checks though they are not in Schengen, or? It is strange, I think. If you get checked leaving, wouldn't they get huffy if they saw no entry stamp on your passport?

Won't matter soon I guess since they are joining Schengen this year.
They are not coherent.

Sometimes they check every person, sometimes you can can find roads crossing the border without control.

And for railways it is the same. On Milano-Switzerland trains via the Como-Chiasso-Lugano railway there are always policemen, on trains via Luino often there is nobody, even not a conductor to check tickets.
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Old October 4th, 2008, 08:30 PM   #844
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You can enter Switzerland also with ID card if citizen of EU, so you don't have space for the stamp, and I think it is forbidden to stamp EU passports. They already recognize also the Schengen resident permit of third country citizens, so they can travel in without need of visa

When you enter Andorra they don't bother you, when you go out you have to go under the custom control as the country isn't a member of the EU. Indeed it is a tax free country and so you can import into EU stuff limited to a certain value ( max. 175€) and limited amount of cigarettes and alcohol.

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Old October 5th, 2008, 12:29 AM   #845
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I hear people traveling to Europe on a standard Schengen visa can pretty much not enter Andorra as that means leaving Schengen and then re-entering it after? (Of course a multi-entry visa would solve this problem.) But I guess they don't check these things much in Andorra (or would they at customs control)?
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Old October 5th, 2008, 05:33 PM   #846
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Hello everyone,

Some days ago, I have set up a forum about borderissues, which was for a long time on my todo-list. As far as I know there still is no borderforum on the internet, except for the numerous subforums on forums like this one.

All people who are interested in this matter are invited to join the forum. At this moment there is not much to see yet (since it has just been established) but I hop that this will change in the (nearby) future.

The URL is http://www.borderforum.org/
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Old October 5th, 2008, 06:08 PM   #847
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PL/D Dobieszczyn - Hintersee

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Old October 5th, 2008, 09:53 PM   #848
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I really dislike the Polish sign with road info. Waaay too much on it!
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Old October 5th, 2008, 10:07 PM   #849
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Everyone dislike this. Regular road is nothing, imagine how to read this driving on m'way
IMO there should be short version on border crossings: city limit, out of city limit, and motorway limit. The full table version should be available on each petrol station.
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Old October 6th, 2008, 02:38 AM   #850
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IMO, German warning triangles with white background look better than Polish ones. Also, is single solid line used in Poland at all?
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Old October 6th, 2008, 07:48 AM   #851
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I see something that looks like a former border-fence between Poland and the DDR. Was that border really marked that way (like it was between BRD and DDR)?

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and I think it is forbidden to stamp EU passports
Why should that be?
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Old October 6th, 2008, 08:17 AM   #852
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IMO, German warning triangles with white background look better than Polish ones. Also, is single solid line used in Poland at all?
I think it is. Double line means "no overtaking" and a good thing it is there as it is a pretty tight turn.

I guess single line in Germany means the same thing.

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Old October 6th, 2008, 09:18 AM   #853
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Double line means "no overtaking" ...

I guess single line in Germany means the same thing.
It's the same thing with Canada and the USA. In Canada, to prohibit overtaking they use single solid line on 2x1 highways and double solid line on 1+2 and 2x2 undivided highways. In the USA, however, they don't use single solid line at all, they just use double solid line on all kinds of roads.

Therefore, I was asking if you can find a single solid line in Poland at all.
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Therefore, I was asking if you can find a single solid line in Poland at all.
Yes, it divides lanes in the same direction, double line - in opposite
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Old October 6th, 2008, 09:39 AM   #855
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Why should that be?
A similar thing happens with the UK which does not participate in that part of Schengen. I have traveled with Swedes to the UK and they never get stamped where as I (who has an American passport with a EU residency permit for Sweden) always get a stamp (coming back into Sweden as well).
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Why should that be?
Because within the EU you have the free movement of people and no EU country police have to stamp EU passports. And Switzerland ratified, through referenda, the free movement of EU citizens inside her borders.
Another thing you should know is that if you are stopped by any EU police, they shouldn't ask you where you go, what you do, how many money you have, as it is in breach of the free movement of people. Unfortunately many policeman don't know that, but you can always complain to the local authorities, or at European level.
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Old October 6th, 2008, 01:37 PM   #857
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Ah, I see. I have collected a lot of stamps, but then again: None of them are EU-stamps indeed I never knew memberstates are not allowed to stamp the EU-passports.
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Yes, it divides lanes in the same direction, double line - in opposite
Moreover it makes driving in PL a bit safer.
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Old October 7th, 2008, 06:16 AM   #859
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Moreover it makes driving in PL a bit safer.
I doubt you can statistically prove your claim.
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Old October 23rd, 2008, 07:51 PM   #860
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Some older pictures around the Ferryterminal in Rotterdam (Europoort) where there is a daily passengerferry (departs in the evening, so when I was there there was nothing interesting to see) to Kingston-upon-Hull. Pictures are abount 2 years old, but the situation hasn't much changed since then.































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