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Old September 26th, 2013, 02:55 PM   #8601
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During my last visit in Budapest, I have compared the old-town feeling of Bratislava and Budapest. It is really true, that Hungarians resisted common Soviet-type-socialism a little bit more. I have seen only few communist building there. Majority of building were those build during Austria-Hungary. In Bratislava, the situation is much different. We had beautiful old town, full of beautiful old building, but during communism, Czechoslovakian government, which were seemingly much more subordinated to USSR than Hungarian on, decided to demolish old town at expense of new brutalist-style buildings.
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Old September 26th, 2013, 03:04 PM   #8602
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During my last visit in Budapest, I have compared the old-town feeling of Bratislava and Budapest. It is really true, that Hungarians resisted common Soviet-type-socialism a little bit more. I have seen only few communist building there. Majority of building were those build during Austria-Hungary. In Bratislava, the situation is much different. We had beautiful old town, full of beautiful old building, but during communism, Czechoslovakian government, which were seemingly much more subordinated to USSR than Hungarian on, decided to demolish old town at expense of new brutalist-style buildings.
I love what they have done with some of these buildings in Bratislava. That area along the Austrian border is actually visible from the countryside of Burgenland, and it looks very modern.
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Old September 26th, 2013, 03:11 PM   #8603
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I love what they have done with some of these buildings in Bratislava. That area along the Austrian border is actually visible from the countryside of Burgenland, and it looks very modern.
Some looks modern, but lot of them are in very bad condition. Sometimes, the local government decide to put an advertisement on them which looks even worse. The new building may look modern, but they are just giant glass cubes - nothing else. Budapest seemed much more untouched by communists than Bratislava during my last visit.

The worst are Slovak National Gallery and Shopping centre and Hotel Kiev.
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Old September 26th, 2013, 04:20 PM   #8604
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Without this historical period, present Hungarian secondary network would have the level of say France, Belgium or even close to Austria.
We never had communism and still many of our rural small roads lack of markings and have potholes... And I guess it isn't much different in Portugal, Spain or Greece.

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Well, Vienna's location did suck back then. Not to mention West Berlin.
How was the situation of Austria between 1945 and 1955? Were people allowed to travel freely between different sectors? Were people living in the Soviet zone subjected to an actual communist regime (no freedom of speech, no free market,...)?

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And now Hungary is occupide by EU, you have changed one "occupation" to another and that is the main reasons why secondary roads in Hungary are still bad.
This is hit... sorry but I cant believe you haver just said that. There is a appropriate saying for this.
In those days it seems that Hungary is the EU country less subjected to the EU "occupation" and the only who has the courage to oppose (although some newly-introduced laws seem a bit in contrast with democratic principes).
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Old September 26th, 2013, 05:42 PM   #8605
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Some looks modern, but lot of them are in very bad condition. Sometimes, the local government decide to put an advertisement on them which looks even worse. The new building may look modern, but they are just giant glass cubes - nothing else. Budapest seemed much more untouched by communists than Bratislava during my last visit.

The worst are Slovak National Gallery and Shopping centre and Hotel Kiev.
comparing Bratislava and Budapest is just nonsense, Budapest was very well built before communism, while Bratislava was small provincial town. During communism Bratislava grew from small provincial town to medium town, while Budapest didn't change a lot. Communist built, but not in the city centre, because the centre was more or less "finished", but around the centre you can see a lot of "Petrzalkas" in Budapest as well.

http://goo.gl/maps/gBjyG
http://goo.gl/maps/u0TQC

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Old September 26th, 2013, 10:38 PM   #8606
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How was the situation of Austria between 1945 and 1955? Were people allowed to travel freely between different sectors? Were people living in the Soviet zone subjected to an actual communist regime (no freedom of speech, no free market,...)?
I don't know, but it was probably even worse than in neighboring Yugoslavia between 1948 and 1955.
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Old September 27th, 2013, 01:19 AM   #8607
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Morocco - Mauritania border:
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Old September 27th, 2013, 01:23 AM   #8608
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Is Spanish still used or known by Western Sahara population?

Quite strange to see there a signal in several languages incluiding Spanish but not English.

BTW, French and Spanich texts do not match. Spanish sentence just say "attention, police".
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Old September 27th, 2013, 01:29 AM   #8609
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Is Spanish still used or known by Western Sahara population?

Quite strange to see there a signal in several languages incluiding Spanish but not English.

BTW, French and Spanich texts do not match. Spanish sentence just say "attention, police".
True, and the French sign says: Slow Down, Police. Those sign's are the same everywhere in Morocco by the way. Every stop sign for Police/Gendarmerie say's it in Arabic, Spanish and French.
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Old September 27th, 2013, 07:01 AM   #8610
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Morocco - Spain border (Melilla)

Took this picture last summer, it's between the Moroccan Douane and the Spanish Douane. Where you have to wait for the douane to put a stamp on the little green paper of your car and of yourself, confirming that you're leaving the country.

If you don't know what i mean here is a picture of the paper for the car:
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Old September 27th, 2013, 07:49 AM   #8611
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I don't know, but it was probably even worse than in neighboring Yugoslavia between 1948 and 1955.
You should watch film "The third man" situation of despair and lawlessness in after war Austria e.g. Vienna has been described very well.
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Old September 27th, 2013, 06:48 PM   #8612
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Old September 27th, 2013, 07:39 PM   #8613
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le perthus , spanish border xix century

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Slovenija-Italy Mangart

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Old September 27th, 2013, 09:49 PM   #8615
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yeah,thats the very fast way to get into italy
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Old September 27th, 2013, 11:24 PM   #8616
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report about border crossings in socialist Czechoslovakia. Note the old hungarian and polish licence plates.

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Old September 27th, 2013, 11:30 PM   #8617
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There's one Zastava 101 with Yugoslav plates (ZG?) at 3:51.
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Old September 28th, 2013, 01:34 AM   #8618
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There's one Zastava 101 with Yugoslav plates (ZG?) at 3:51.
Wow, I have not noticed it before. They are definitely Yugoslav, but I think it is rather ZD - Zadar (HR)
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Tunisia - Libya border:

(I know it's a crappy picture but it's the only one i could find..)
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Old September 28th, 2013, 05:14 PM   #8620
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report about border crossings in socialist Czechoslovakia. Note the old hungarian and polish licence plates.

Really funny, particularly for all, who remember these good old days. Those Polish "tourists" were a little confused when asked about souvenirs brought from Czechoslovakia , however they actually could mention some CS attractions.
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