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Old January 25th, 2014, 08:43 PM   #9461
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While we're on the topic of Neum, has anyone here visited the area since last July? I'd like to know some things...

- Is Croatia carrying out comprehensive entry/exit checks these days?
- What about BiH - are they treating it now as a serious border crossing?
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Old January 25th, 2014, 09:25 PM   #9462
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In September 2013.
No control was in Neum.
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Old January 25th, 2014, 09:54 PM   #9463
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While we're on the topic of Neum, has anyone here visited the area since last July? I'd like to know some things...

- Is Croatia carrying out comprehensive entry/exit checks these days?
- What about BiH - are they treating it now as a serious border crossing?
I crossed Neum borders twice in September, and the exit and entry checks by both Croatia and BiH were not comprehensive at all, I don't remember exactly whether it was in the Croatian or in the Bosnian side, but one of the times we did not have to stop at all; the other times they just asked us where were we from and where were we going to, but they did not look at our passports..

In contrast, we also used Ivanica and Metkovic border crossings during that trip and there was a huge difference, especially in Metkovic (entering Croatia), where the control was really exhaustive. Using Ivanica to enter BiH is a unique experience, the guard manually opened the barrier and we got BiH stamps in our passports (not in Neum).
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Old January 25th, 2014, 11:01 PM   #9464
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In contrast, we also used Ivanica and Metkovic border crossings during that trip and there was a huge difference, especially in Metkovic (entering Croatia), where the control was really exhaustive. Using Ivanica to enter BiH is a unique experience, the guard manually opened the barrier and we got BiH stamps in our passports (not in Neum).
Good to know if someone wants stamps
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Old January 25th, 2014, 11:01 PM   #9465
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Thank you to both of you for your comments, it helps with my research

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I crossed Neum borders twice in September, and the exit and entry checks by both Croatia and BiH were not comprehensive at all, I don't remember exactly whether it was in the Croatian or in the Bosnian side, but one of the times we did not have to stop at all; the other times they just asked us where were we from and where were we going to, but they did not look at our passports..
Sigh - this is exactly what makes a mockery of border controls. They went to the effort of building the new facilities, then they don't actually bother to control things at all. Apparently the reason for the loose BiH control is that a secondary control exists outside of Neum on the road towards Mostar, but that's no reason for Croatia to have such lax controls. Certainly - I'd expect at least a decent Customs control given that the prices on certain goods will have to rise considerably to EU norms.

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In contrast, we also used Ivanica and Metkovic border crossings during that trip and there was a huge difference, especially in Metkovic (entering Croatia), where the control was really exhaustive. Using Ivanica to enter BiH is a unique experience, the guard manually opened the barrier and we got BiH stamps in our passports (not in Neum).
That shows how times have changed - when I used Metkovic last time in 2011, the control was incredibly laid back by Croatia. Ivanica is a great experience, I agree - did the BiH officer also take your passports into his hut to check?

Manual opening of gates also exists at the 'other' HR/MNE border at...I forget the name, the one near Prevlaka I had a great laugh there with the MNE customs/passport control guys there - the traffic was minimal and they were just sitting back in the sun and enjoying themselves. Even the Croatian guards were doing nothing much other than sitting and watching the bay.

As for stamps - I could kill the Croatians for the mess that they've made with my passport, including stamping one page in the middle that had 4 very neatly placed Ukrainian stamps!
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Old January 25th, 2014, 11:50 PM   #9466
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a secondary control exists outside of Neum on the road towards Mostar
Really? Where exactly?
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Old January 26th, 2014, 01:27 AM   #9467
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I'm living in Ivanica the whole summer and I can say that the checks are harrassing during the summer holidays (holidays of people of Trebinje)and the warm weekends outside the holidays !! (from my house, I see files up to 3 hours (only 1 car per 4 to 5 minutes) !! (same situation before 1st July 2013 and after) : it's a volontary behaviour of the border police after a local newspaper wrote (in 2011, I believe) that the most undesired tourists came from BiH with their frigoboxes and sandwiches to stay the afternoon on THEIR beaches
@ eulanthe: the crossing you write about is called Vitaljina(HR)/Kobila(MNE) and is worth the 5 kilometer to avoid the crazy bordercrossing on the magistrale !!
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Old January 26th, 2014, 01:40 AM   #9468
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That shows how times have changed - when I used Metkovic last time in 2011, the control was incredibly laid back by Croatia. Ivanica is a great experience, I agree - did the BiH officer also take your passports into his hut to check
Yes, the officer did that! And a few kilometers after having entered BiH (but before having entered the Republika Srpska) there was another control, this time by police, checking again our documentation, but this time focusing more on the car papers.

We were on our way to Mostar from Dubrovnik and the GPS showed Ivanica boder crossing as the faster option. Although the road is worse than through Neum and Metkovic, it saved us having to cross 3 borders in a few kilometers, and of course there was less traffic. We did the return trip through Metkovic and we spent more than 20 minutes queuing to cross the border.The Croatian officers even checked the car's engine (so we had to wait there for more than 10 minutes), but I think it was a random check, other vehicles did not have such a comprehensible check. In Ivanica we were all set in less than 5 minutes.
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Old January 26th, 2014, 12:20 PM   #9469
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Yes, the officer did that! And a few kilometers after having entered BiH (but before having entered the Republika Srpska) there was another control, this time by police, checking again our documentation, but this time focusing more on the car papers.

We were on our way to Mostar from Dubrovnik and the GPS showed Ivanica boder crossing as the faster option. Although the road is worse than through Neum and Metkovic, it saved us having to cross 3 borders in a few kilometers, and of course there was less traffic. We did the return trip through Metkovic and we spent more than 20 minutes queuing to cross the border.The Croatian officers even checked the car's engine (so we had to wait there for more than 10 minutes), but I think it was a random check, other vehicles did not have such a comprehensible check. In Ivanica we were all set in less than 5 minutes.
Another issue is the nationality of car in front of you. Especially in Metkovic, I got Serbian truck in front of me. The border officers literally took it apart and I was waiting perhaps 20 minutes. The truck was the only car in queue.

The same at Greek-Macedonian Border on Greek exit. Macedonian car in front of me. The police took it apart, took the luggage out, and forced the passengers to get out of the car. When I got to the border-check, the policeman just took my passport, ask me "Slovenia?" and after my correction "No, Slovakia" he just smiled, did a not-bad-face, told "never mind" and wished me a pleasant journey.
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Old January 26th, 2014, 06:09 PM   #9470
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In contrast, we also used Ivanica and Metkovic border crossings during that trip and there was a huge difference, especially in Metkovic (entering Croatia), where the control was really exhaustive. Using Ivanica to enter BiH is a unique experience, the guard manually opened the barrier and we got BiH stamps in our passports (not in Neum).
I didn't get any stamp on the BiH-border, not in Metković (entering BiH) and not in Ivanica (leaving BiH). And in Neum nothing at all. The waiting time in Metković was about 20 minutes (that border crossing is a mess anyway beacause of trucks and busses trying to enter the long queues in the middle)

HR-> MNE via Debeli Brijeg: Got exit- and entrystamps. But when leaving MNE via Kobila, again no stamps on both sides. But Kobila took only 5 minutes.
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Old January 26th, 2014, 06:35 PM   #9471
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Another issue is the nationality of car in front of you. Especially in Metkovic, I got Serbian truck in front of me. The border officers literally took it apart and I was waiting perhaps 20 minutes. The truck was the only car in queue.

The same at Greek-Macedonian Border on Greek exit. Macedonian car in front of me. The police took it apart, took the luggage out, and forced the passengers to get out of the car. When I got to the border-check, the policeman just took my passport, ask me "Slovenia?" and after my correction "No, Slovakia" he just smiled, did a not-bad-face, told "never mind" and wished me a pleasant journey.
Hahaha, good thing you are not Slovene

I once had to pass USA check in an airport, the person in front of me had been to Pakistan, as soon as they mentioned that, it was over, 20 minutes waiting... the other lines cleared and the guards at the desks went home but I was still there
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Old January 26th, 2014, 09:18 PM   #9472
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Old January 28th, 2014, 06:51 AM   #9473
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Old January 28th, 2014, 09:52 AM   #9474
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Why do they have a pedestrian crossing besides a border that cannot be crossed by car?
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Old January 28th, 2014, 04:01 PM   #9475
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EDIT: I'm playing with GMaps. Kanadzie may appreciate the "rue Railroad" and "rue Passenger" on the Quebec side....
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Old January 28th, 2014, 09:25 PM   #9476
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On that map, I can see the Opera House/Library and the house that is split by the border on the west side of the road that crosses the border....but are there really other houses that the border goes through between the opera house and the border road.? Does anybody have photos of those?

I know that there is a house or two to the east that the border goes through and they front on roads that are now closed...but I wasn't aware of any others?
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Old January 29th, 2014, 05:28 PM   #9477
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Old January 30th, 2014, 01:57 AM   #9478
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Where was the case of crossing twice a border to go to school?
I think it wasn't far away from there, was it?
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Old January 30th, 2014, 03:16 AM   #9479
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I think it was somewhere on the Croatian-Serbian border.
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Old January 30th, 2014, 07:13 AM   #9480
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Where was the case of crossing twice a border to go to school?
I think it wasn't far away from there, was it?
Point Roberts (Whatcom County, Washington State).
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