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Old May 5th, 2014, 01:54 AM   #10301
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I've gotten waved through by the Slovene border police today, while crossing from Croatia at Macelj.
There was quite a big queue, I handed our passports/ID (3 persons in the car), the guy just waved us through

Check was not done by the 2 countries together, but each on their side. The Croatian looked at our passports/ID pretty quick.

When I got in Croatia on 2nd of May at Obrežje, the Slovene also wanted to see car papers, the Croat lady just looked on our IDs quickly.
This time the check was done at the same place, just some meters apart.
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Old May 5th, 2014, 03:26 AM   #10302
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Goričan/Muracsány (HR) -> Letenye (H) motorway crossing
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1. "Carina" (customs) sign not yet removed ...


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3. 10 mins of waiting time to enter Hungary. Not because of the Czech motorhome, but the car in front of it ... with Asian passengers. It was ultimately requested to pull over, then traffic behind it was processed quickly.

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Old May 5th, 2014, 07:28 AM   #10303
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Macelj/Gruskovje won't be a joint control, as they agreed to only implement joint controls if the traffic builds up too much. I'm not sure why, but it might be for technical reasons related to working space.

What's strange about the HR jjoint controls is that they were supposed to be 'one stop', but it's normally two stops.
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Old May 5th, 2014, 12:00 PM   #10304
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I found the RO-HU check with one stop, but also with 2 stops, just a few meters apart.
Dunno, I guess it depends on their mood. Sometimes the RO guy sits in the hut, while the Hungarian are outside, other times they both stay outside together.
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Old May 5th, 2014, 03:25 PM   #10305
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As far as I know, at SLO HR borders there are usually two stops, because Croatian Immigration officers are regularly operated from booths where former was placed the Slovenian Custom service. Sometimes they stay outside together and jointly controlled passengers. However, at Gruškovje/Macelj they are in their booths at each side of the border.
Question is, why this border crossing cannot be arranged as others?
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Old May 6th, 2014, 10:48 AM   #10306
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Border crossing Šula (MNE) - Vitinica (BIH). Some dirt road in the mountains, but still a border crossing
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Old May 6th, 2014, 11:09 AM   #10307
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As far as I know, at SLO HR borders there are usually two stops, because Croatian Immigration officers are regularly operated from booths where former was placed the Slovenian Custom service. Sometimes they stay outside together and jointly controlled passengers. However, at Gruškovje/Macelj they are in their booths at each side of the border.
Question is, why this border crossing cannot be arranged as others?
Yes, it's weird that the SLO and HR police authorities didn't get them to work side by side in some cases. I noticed that at the smaller locals-only border crossings, they tend to work together - but not at the so called 'international' and 'interstate' crossings.

I know when Poland joined the EU, the German and Polish border police were ordered to work side by side outside rather than sitting inside.

I have a feeling that Gruskovje/Macelj may be because there isn't the accommodation for the Croatian guards. The Slovenian Customs authorities will probably still be based at Gruskovje in order to conduct random checks, same with the Croatian authorities at Macelj.

It does make a mockery of the whole one stop concept though - the Slovenian/Croatian Carina were rarely interested in stopping anyone before July last year, so two stops has remained two stops, just on one side of the border.

locals only, or international? I'd love a stamp from there...
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Old May 6th, 2014, 04:46 PM   #10308
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We were just talking about the U.S./Canada border in the Canadian thread, but this two-stops issue doesn't even come up there. You just deal with customs officials of the country you're entering. What's with this exit control?
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Old May 6th, 2014, 06:23 PM   #10309
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Border crossing Šula (MNE) - Vitinica (BIH). Some dirt road in the mountains, but still a border crossing
That's great, it must be somewehere there: https://www.google.de/maps/@43.3966134,19.0374364,14z

OSM: http://osm.org/go/xfPFPquR-

Is it open also for non-locals?
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Old May 6th, 2014, 07:08 PM   #10310
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I visited Andorra a few weeks ago and noticed that they use the blue EU-style border signs with stars and the county name (in this case ANDORRA) written in the middle. Why is that? Andorra isn't an EU member.
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Old May 6th, 2014, 08:10 PM   #10311
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New border bridge Piwniczna (PL) - Mníšek nad Popradom (SK)

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International border on river Poprad


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Old May 6th, 2014, 08:16 PM   #10312
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I visited Andorra a few weeks ago and noticed that they use the blue EU-style border signs with stars and the county name (in this case ANDORRA) written in the middle. Why is that? Andorra isn't an EU member.
The yellow stars on blue background are a symbol of the Council of Europe, which Andorra joined on November 10, 1994.
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Old May 6th, 2014, 08:17 PM   #10313
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I visited Andorra a few weeks ago and noticed that they use the blue EU-style border signs with stars and the county name (in this case ANDORRA) written in the middle. Why is that? Andorra isn't an EU member.
They do that since approx. 20 years. Why shouldn't they? The sign itself has no copyright
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Old May 6th, 2014, 08:20 PM   #10314
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The yellow stars on blue background are a symbol of the Council of Europe, which Andorra joined on November 10, 1994.
The Council of Europe also includes non-EU member states;

* Norway (founding member)
* Turkey
* Iceland
* Switzerland
* Liechtenstein
* Albania
* Moldova
* Macedonia
* Ukraine
* Russia
* Georgia
* Armenia
* Azerbaijan
* Bosnia and Herzegovina
* Serbia
* Montenegro

People often mistake it for being a "wannabe EU member state".
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The yellow stars on blue background are a symbol of the Council of Europe, which Andorra joined on November 10, 1994.
Thanks!
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Old May 6th, 2014, 08:54 PM   #10316
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They do that since approx. 20 years. Why shouldn't they? The sign itself has no copyright
They stole the circle of stars from the original 13-star U.S. flag anyway. (Joking. I have no idea whether that's true or not.)
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They stole the circle of stars from the original 13-star U.S. flag anyway. (Joking. I have no idea whether that's true or not.)
Maybe the U.S. flag was an inspiration... who knows for sure?
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Could well have been. But it's not copyrighted either, I'd guess.
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Copyright laws do not apply to flags I think... I am not sure though.

Anyway, what matters is this: I cross the borders from Greece to Bulgaria in 5 seconds while you need at least a few minutes to cross from the USA to Canada or Mexico.
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At a quiet crossing it might be faster. And there are no exit checks. I still don't know what's with these exit checks. Seems very pre-1989. :-P
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