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Old May 21st, 2014, 01:34 PM   #10401
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What if you are a member of an ethnic minority group?
Exactly. Some of my relatives are Hungarians, but they have different nationality than the majority in state, where passports are being issued. But it does not mean, they don't have citizenship feeling. Lot of them considers Slovakia as their homeland. It has nothing to do with passports at all.

Especially in Central Europe, nationalism is the most overrated (and useful) ideology. Just look at the culture and habits.

Who is the traditional Christmas gift-bringer in Germany, Austria, Hungary, Czech rep., Slovakia, Poland? Or the Christmas carols? The same except the lyrics conformed to language.

But do we know someone who is proud of being Central-European? And do we know nationalists in Austria, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania?... Unfortunately...
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Old May 21st, 2014, 02:29 PM   #10402
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Of course, but it just goes to show that people in Europe do refer to themselves using their nationality rather than citizenship.
Maybe if you're an ethnic Italian living in Slovenia you'll say you're an Italian rather than a Slovenian, but Bosnian and Herzegovinian aren't ethnicities, so it's perfectly fine to consider yourself a Bosnian or Herzegovinian.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 03:26 PM   #10403
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Exactly. Some of my relatives are Hungarians, but they have different nationality than the majority in state, where passports are being issued. But it does not mean, they don't have citizenship feeling. Lot of them considers Slovakia as their homeland. It has nothing to do with passports at all.

Especially in Central Europe, nationalism is the most overrated (and useful) ideology. Just look at the culture and habits.

Who is the traditional Christmas gift-bringer in Germany, Austria, Hungary, Czech rep., Slovakia, Poland? Or the Christmas carols? The same except the lyrics conformed to language.

But do we know someone who is proud of being Central-European? And do we know nationalists in Austria, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania?... Unfortunately...
Well I consider myself patriotic in a way of feeling connected to Hungary and all Hungarians but I also distance myself from those who think that they are better than others just because they are Hungarians.

And you may think that it's funny but I love Central Europe. I like to read Hasek or Hrabal, I like to listen to Chopin or Liszt, I like to drink Czech and Slovak beers and eat Hungarian food, etc.. I feel I'm much more connected to these than to the products any other culture. I'm not saying that those are bad, it's just that these can really speak to my soul.

Have you seen the Grand Budapest Hotel?
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Old May 21st, 2014, 04:29 PM   #10404
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What if you are a member of an ethnic minority group?
Then... it depends! You may have a dual identity, determined by your mother tongue and your....passport!
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Old May 21st, 2014, 04:31 PM   #10405
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Have you seen the Grand Budapest Hotel?

I have... Saoirse was so sweet...
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Old May 21st, 2014, 04:43 PM   #10406
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I have... Saoirse was so sweet...
Loved it too That movie showed a little bit of everything that makes up Central Europe.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 04:56 PM   #10407
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Oh my God, look... It's a ******* border crossing!!!!



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Old May 21st, 2014, 06:12 PM   #10408
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Well I consider myself patriotic in a way of feeling connected to Hungary and all Hungarians but I also distance myself from those who think that they are better than others just because they are Hungarians.

And you may think that it's funny but I love Central Europe. I like to read Hasek or Hrabal, I like to listen to Chopin or Liszt, I like to drink Czech and Slovak beers and eat Hungarian food, etc.. I feel I'm much more connected to these than to the products any other culture. I'm not saying that those are bad, it's just that these can really speak to my soul.

Have you seen the Grand Budapest Hotel?
I love Central Europe too. But not in way it is something more than other parts of Europe or World. I just identify it with my home. But sadly it seems, we are minority. And it makes me sad how V4 have not utilized its potential.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 07:05 PM   #10409
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Oh my God, look... It's a ******* border crossing!!!!



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A Schengen border has softer controls..... lol!!!!

What I am surprised is to read it in Spanish and English... and not in Portuguese. People driving there who aren't Spanish speakers would be mainly Portuguese speakers rather than English speakers.
Obviously in airports will be conversely but not on roads...
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Old May 21st, 2014, 07:12 PM   #10410
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Are you sure it's the Peruvian-Brazilian border as opposed to one of Peru's other borders?
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Old May 21st, 2014, 07:33 PM   #10411
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No, of course... but it will be easier to see any Brazilian driver rather than other non Spanish speaking country in the world I guess
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Old May 21st, 2014, 07:35 PM   #10412
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I don't know much about foreign languages spoken in Latin American countries, but I guess English is more of a lingua franca than Portuguese there.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 07:38 PM   #10413
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I love Central Europe too. But not in way it is something more than other parts of Europe or World. I just identify it with my home. But sadly it seems, we are minority. And it makes me sad how V4 have not utilized its potential.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 07:41 PM   #10414
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I don't know much about foreign languages spoken in Latin American countries, but I guess English is more of a lingua franca than Portuguese there.
I do not know... look around. It doesn't seem to be a business centre or so.

Spanish and Portuguese are quite close but for instance, first word in the sentence (Thank you) is quite different in both languages.

English is learnt of course but I do not think on many people who have learn English crossing there (furthermore there are many other languages learn in South America even if only Spanish and Portuguese are spoken... and English, Dutch and French in one corner. You can get amazed looking how they learn Italian or German, for instance)
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Old May 21st, 2014, 10:07 PM   #10415
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No, of course... but it will be easier to see any Brazilian driver rather than other non Spanish speaking country in the world I guess
It's Peru's border with Ecuador:


http://www.travellerspoint.com/photo...ers/hayden111/

You don't have to be a driver, you could get there by bus. I assume there're more English-speaking people crossing the border there than Brazilians or the Portuguese.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 11:34 PM   #10416
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Donji Miholjac / Alsó-Miholjác (HR) -> Drávaszabolcs (H) crossing
April 2014
(I posted the drive in opposite direction some pages before)

1. Croatian side, part of the booths already seems abandoned, as no (systematic) customs controls anymore


2. Border river


3. Hungary ahead


4. Drávaszabolcs "totem coloumn" and border facilities ahead. Manned with police as it's a Schengen external border.


5. Border behind us, it's now Main Road 58


6. Bonus: border bridge seen from Hungarian rivershore
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 01:43 AM   #10417
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Slovenian border officer held us I think around 5 minutes at border crossing Metlika. Looked more then ones on our passport, on the car paper, then asked for my ID too. Then went into his hut and checked them I guess. Finally he waved us through. The Croatian was quicker, did look on every paper though...

That's maybe the most I spent at an EU border crossing for many years...
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 02:41 AM   #10418
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Never trust Germans. Lol, when I was small and only knew Germans from world-war stories, I remember I once saw a car with German license plates (D). I freaked out and ran away.
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 10:53 AM   #10419
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LOL, but I'm not German. Maybe that is the problem?
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 01:40 PM   #10420
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Romanian passport, German car... suspicious!

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