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Old June 17th, 2014, 01:11 AM   #10601
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Very beautiful. That's not E65 though.
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Old June 17th, 2014, 01:20 AM   #10602
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It's not, did I say it is?
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Old June 17th, 2014, 01:23 AM   #10603
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No, a sign says so.
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Old June 17th, 2014, 01:26 AM   #10604
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Ah, yes, I also wondered why it's signed E65...
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Old June 17th, 2014, 09:24 AM   #10605
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Were they incredibly relaxed at Kobila? When I went there, they were sitting around, drinking coffee and joking with me and my wife. The Croatians on the other hand were just chilling out - who wouldn't with such a view?

I always found the difference in attitude between Vitaljina and Karasovici to be incredible.
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Old June 17th, 2014, 09:51 AM   #10606
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The Croats were very relaxed, we didn't need more then 20 seconds to pass. The Montenegrin was also in a good mood. He quickly checked our trunk and our documents, but we didn't stay long there.
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Old June 17th, 2014, 03:16 PM   #10607
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When I was there last year, (from MNE to HR), the Montenegron police was very relaxed, but when he found out I spoke the local language(s) he became even more relaxed. I was almost expecting an invitation for a drink
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Old June 17th, 2014, 03:56 PM   #10608
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When I was there last year, (from MNE to HR), the Montenegron police was very relaxed, but when he found out I spoke the local language(s) he became even more relaxed. I was almost expecting an invitation for a drink
Reminds me myself at SRB-HU border check. Tried to start a small talk in Hungarian (like jónapót, hazamegyek) with the officer He was such happy to hear me speaking Hungarian that he asked me something I had no clue about Then I told him I can't speak hungarian

His facial expression was like:
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Old June 17th, 2014, 08:42 PM   #10609
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When I was there last year, (from MNE to HR), the Montenegron police was very relaxed, but when he found out I spoke the local language(s) he became even more relaxed. I was almost expecting an invitation for a drink
I guess the location encourages their good mood

We were laughing with them about the similarities between Polish and their language, and we must have stayed at the checkpoint for about 15 minutes just because the conversation was interesting and we weren't in a hurry. No other cars turned up, so no wonder they were so relaxed with such an easy job.
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Old June 17th, 2014, 10:16 PM   #10610
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As I understand it, the original idea for the Channel Tunnel is that it would have been genuinely turn up and go. For example - the check-in booths at Folkestone and Calais were originally called toll booths, and they were designed (from what I remember...) very similarly to the average French toll booth, even down to having displays to show the price and type of vehicle.

The infrastructure in Folkestone and Calais shows this - I can't explain it well, but when you drive down the ramps to the train - http://cdn.carthrottle.com/wp-conten...Eurotunnel.jpg - you can see that there are many, many ramps down to the loading areas. As far as I know, the original intention was for this marshalling area to be very busy indeed.

The whole area in Folkestone and Calais is very much a tribute to what could have been.
Was the original idea that it would completely replace the ferries, like the Aust ferry to Wales which ended the day the Severn Bridge opened? Could it even handle the amount of traffic the ferries take? It is a seriously busy crossing, bearing in mind that on top of Dover Calais, there is Dover-Dunkirk and Newhaven-Dieppe is not that far away.

I always wondered if anybody has considered another terminal, further up the M20 or even the other side of London, just single level to fit European loading gauge to take some traffic off the M20. HS1 is quite underused so this could in theory be possible.
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Old June 18th, 2014, 12:27 AM   #10611
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Was the original idea that it would completely replace the ferries, like the Aust ferry to Wales which ended the day the Severn Bridge opened? Could it even handle the amount of traffic the ferries take? It is a seriously busy crossing, bearing in mind that on top of Dover Calais, there is Dover-Dunkirk and Newhaven-Dieppe is not that far away.
I don't think there was ever such an idea.
It was more about having faster, less weather dependent option for crossing the Channel. Also keeping ferries and tunnel competing keep prices in check.

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I always wondered if anybody has considered another terminal, further up the M20 or even the other side of London, just single level to fit European loading gauge to take some traffic off the M20. HS1 is quite underused so this could in theory be possible.
What for? Longer journey on a a train means higher cost and less slots for lucrative high speed trains. After opening access to the tunnel to companies like Deutche Bahn number of passenger trains will surely increase.
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Old June 18th, 2014, 10:05 PM   #10612
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Was the original idea that it would completely replace the ferries, like the Aust ferry to Wales which ended the day the Severn Bridge opened?
I think the original thinking was that it would probably destroy the business case for the tourist market on the ferries, and to a certain extent, they've succeeded. I'm not so convinced that they were ever really that interested in the freight market - the facilities for freight are shockingly poor compared to the ferries, and they don't really seem to show much interest in trying to win that business.

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Could it even handle the amount of traffic the ferries take? It is a seriously busy crossing, bearing in mind that on top of Dover Calais, there is Dover-Dunkirk and Newhaven-Dieppe is not that far away.
Newhaven-Dieppe is dying - Newhaven Harbour can't accommodate the size of ships needed to make it commercially work, and the local government in Dieppe keep threatening to pull the plug.

With Dover-Dunkirk/Calais, it could easily absorb the tourist traffic without any pain. Freight traffic, maybe not - the new P&O ships really eat up a huge amount of freight on every crossing. But I think that the future of that crossing is with a single company operating Dover-Calais vs Eurotunnel - there's no way DFDS, P&O and MyFerryLink can all survive in that market.

I suspect that if the security and frontier checks were dropped, usage would go through the roof.

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I always wondered if anybody has considered another terminal, further up the M20 or even the other side of London, just single level to fit European loading gauge to take some traffic off the M20. HS1 is quite underused so this could in theory be possible.
I guess the problem is that it will always be cheaper to drive than to take the train.
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Old June 19th, 2014, 09:38 PM   #10613
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BTW, here is place where all the spoil from the tunnel was dumped:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samphire_Hoe_Country_Park
http://www.samphirehoe.co.uk/

Entering via single lane tunnel:
















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Old June 19th, 2014, 09:41 PM   #10614
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Folkstone in the distance:










Massive seawall keeps everything in place


Exiting via single lane tunnel again


Sorry for doing a bit of OT (as it is not part of the border crossing) but I hope you will forgive me a bit of geeky stuff on this forum
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Old June 19th, 2014, 09:44 PM   #10615
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We were just talking border crossings on the Canada thread....

(But I didn't start it. )
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Old June 19th, 2014, 11:21 PM   #10616
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Reminds me myself at SRB-HU border check. Tried to start a small talk in Hungarian (like jónapót, hazamegyek) with the officer He was such happy to hear me speaking Hungarian that he asked me something I had no clue about Then I told him I can't speak hungarian
i had similar situation i was driving my sister to airport in Budapest to catch early flight. so, middle of the night, small border crossing (Gola - Berzence), officers are quite surprised to see a car there. just like you, i said jó estét kivánok, he responded me something in hungrian, and i made relaxed face as i understood everything and said "Ferihegy". his response was: "aaa, Ferihegy!", thanked in hungarian and probably wished me nice trip
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Old June 19th, 2014, 11:36 PM   #10617
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$ 100 millions for second bridge between Brasil and Paraguay:

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Dnit divulga empresa que construirá nova ponte entre Brasil e Paraguai
Construtora vai cobrar R$ 233,3 milhões pela obra, em Foz do Iguaçu.
Nova ponte será do tipo estaiada e deve ficar pronta em 2017.




Foi divulgado na tarde desta quinta-feira (24) o resultado da licitação que escolheu a empresa que construirá a segunda ponte internacional entre o Brasil e o Paraguai, em Foz do Iguaçu, no oeste do Paraná. Duas construtoras participaram do processo, realizado em Brasília, no Distrito Federal. Segundo o Departamento Nacional de Infraestrutura de Transporte (Dnit), a proposta vencedora foi a do Consórcio Construbase/Cidade/Paulitec, que cobrará R$ 233.375.000,00 para executar a obra.

A segunda participante, a Empresa Sul Americana de Montagens S.A., cobraria 232.300.000,00. Mesmo cobrando valor menor, a construtora perdeu por obter notas mais baixas nos quesitos técnicos avaliados pelo Dnit. As duas empresas têm até o dia 2 de maio para entrarem com recursos e, caso necessário, até 9 de maio para apresentarem defesa. Só então o contrato será assinado com a vencedora.
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Old June 19th, 2014, 11:39 PM   #10618
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i had similar situation i was driving my sister to airport in Budapest to catch early flight. so, middle of the night, small border crossing (Gola - Berzence), officers are quite surprised to see a car there. just like you, i said jó estét kivánok, he responded me something in hungrian, and i made relaxed face as i understood everything and said "Ferihegy". his response was: "aaa, Ferihegy!", thanked in hungarian and probably wished me nice trip
Um, What's Ferihegy?
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Old June 19th, 2014, 11:42 PM   #10619
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The name of Budapest's airport
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Old June 19th, 2014, 11:54 PM   #10620
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The name of Budapest's airport
It's renamed to "Ferenc Liszt" recently.
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